Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: AdamE

You do post very interesting things.. simulation of plasma with dielectric
media! from 1962!

Maybe that retrograde satellite that JV saw on radar in 1961 that was supposed
to be impossible was one of ours/theirs (Russia not aliens)..

it's just amazing how far back some of this tech goes..

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Thank you.

Yes. I find it fascinating how far some of this goes back. Even to 1965 examining ball lightning as an incendiary device, including Laser guidance of ball lightning.

Survey of Kugelblitz Theories For Electromagnetic Incendiaries

The purpose of this study was to review the theory and experimental data on ball lightning, to
compare the existing theory and experimental data to determine if ball lightning is a high or low
energy phenomenon, and if it is a high energy phenomenon, define an effective theoretical and
experimental program to develop a potential incendiary weapon.
This report contains the results of an extensive literature survey on the subject of ball lighting
including the designation of information sources, the content of bibliographies, and a summary
of those reports specifically related to the subject.

www.cufon.org...

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: AdamE


What would the point of a making a material with multiple layers of metal, from a standard physics perspective in the 40s -60s?

The layered aspect also reminds me of a side effect from using 3D printing techniques. I’m not sure what kind of materials are used for this, and we are talking about different time periodes here as well. From what I could find, stereolithography used for polymers seems to date back to the 80’s, additive manufacturing with metals seems to be around from the 90’s (if my info is correct). Could it also be possible these kind of methods where already in use earlier in the black world?

originally posted by: zeroPointOneQ

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: AdamE


What would the point of a making a material with multiple layers of metal, from a standard physics perspective in the 40s -60s?

The layered aspect also reminds me of a side effect from using 3D printing techniques. I’m not sure what kind of materials are used for this, and we are talking about different time periodes here as well. From what I could find, stereolithography used for polymers seems to date back to the 80’s, additive manufacturing with metals seems to be around from the 90’s (if my info is correct). Could it also be possible these kind of methods where already in use earlier in the black world?

Good day zeroPointOneQ.

History tells us that the black world would get first slice of any one pie.

Kelly Johnson: If I can talk about it, it's obsolete.

Apparently, Ben Rich, stated during a 1993, Alumni Speech at UCLA,

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity...Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."

One obvious example for the aspect for the secrecy is below...

In 1973, the Office of Special Projects, established in 1965 to manage CIA satellite reconnaissance operations became the Office of Development and Engineering (OD&E), with a mission that extended beyond satellite development. In 1987, Deputy Director for Science and Technology Evan Hineman established a new Special Projects Staff, which soon became a new Office for Special Projects. This version of the office was concerned not with satellites, but with emplaced sensors – sensors that could be placed in a fixed location to collect signals intelligence or measurement and signature intelligence (MASINT) about a specific target. Such sensors had been used to monitor Chinese missile tests, Soviet laser activity, military movements, and foreign nuclear programs.
nsarchive2.gwu.edu...

If correct I can only assume that Ben Rich was referring to the acknowledgement of such technology only being brought forward publicly in the likelihood of an itchy finger on a big red button or a natural disaster of some kind on a large scale?

Which would in turn raise another question in my mind, in what way would this tech benefit in such scenarios?

Again just some thoughts, but if any of this technology was utilizing free energy of some kind, would matter not being made public, after such possible scenarios were played out?

a reply to: AdamE

I think I would remove the Ben Rich quote.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I honestly would, he was not known to be an arrogrant man but was known to drop in certain things at the ends of lectures/speeches. I can only assume he dropped in such lines to keep people questioning, rather than actually admitting "anything you can imagine, we know how to do" far too wide and sweeping to actually be deciphered as anything IMO.

a reply to: pigsy2400

The original sources are difficult to verify. From all accounts Ben was a bit of a joker and liked to sprinkle some humorous comments into his talks.

Did he really say?

We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects...

He might have done but again was he just injecting a bit of fun into his talks?

See : noriohayakawa.wordpress.com...

Or this pdf : www.astronomyufo.com... (P17-18)

a reply to: mirageman

Some info here also.

en.m.wikipedia.org...:Ben_Rich

Sorry cannot seem to link it correctly.

Your opinions are much appreciated.

I used the word 'apparently' as I have heard similar thoughts on this quote.

The only person I have heard reference this recently in a serious manner was Jim Goodall in a radio interview.

Jim states Ben told him this 10 days before Ben passed.
Don Ecker is also a top grade interviewer imo, and also makes some very interesting observations.
It is a very good interview.
kgraradioarchives.com...
But we will never know for sure, so I will continue where I left off on a previous post.

It is very important to my research at this point, if anybody has information from what John has been posting?

Dr David Anderson of American Anti-gravity apparently told John he was stationed at Martlesham Heath during the RFI?

If correct, this opens up another level of intrigue.

I will be looking into this further, if I can, but if anybody has information on Dr David Anderson at hand, it would be very helpful.

a reply to: mirageman

It seems pretty clear that he had been using that joke,
with silly joke props for YEARS.

To think (like I said all along) that our friends in the breakaway civilization camp
have been making complete fools of themselves all this time.

No different than the ancient alien and space brother delusion groups.

The only people who haven't humiliated themselves, are those who
have NEW THEORIES, or who say "I don't know".

I really like this thread, as we discuss various POSSIBILITIES, and there are an amazing
number of them, and considering we are talking the 80's that's even more fascinating.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No different than the ancient alien and space brother delusion groups.

And there are plenty of those Kev!!

This gentleman has been around for a while it seems, but I am only just looking at his credentials and talks.
In case anyone else like I, have little knowledge regarding Dr David Anderson, this is where I will start from. I may be a while, I may not!
www.youtube.com...

Right now I am interested in the nature of THz being linked to faster than light communications and......

"Both Munro and Wiseman noted that often people think of teleportation as moving an actual object (or a photon) form one place to another. "People have this 'Star Trek' approach," Munro said. "They think of atoms being teleported. What we're moving is information from one [quantum] bit to another [quantum] bit. There's no matter — only information. That's hard to get your head around."
www.space.com...

a reply to: AdamE

It's true. I've known it for decades.

What the star trek people are actually doing, is to step into a death machine
(disintegration chamber).

A very accurate scanner records their EXACT quantum state (which is nonsense
due to the "experimenter effect", but they weasel out of it by mentioning
"heisenberg compensator".

but anyway.. they are scanned.. then the scan is impressed on some sort of
transtator carrier wave (it's star trek tech) and then beamed to a remote
location (without a receiving station is pretty silly).

Then remotely, the pattern is used with a food synthesizer type effect to
rebuild the person from scratch.

Every time they are 'transported', they are in fact being cloned.. and the
original destroyed.

Of course there are a few episodes where there is a transporter malfunction
and the original is not destroyed.

I myself would not want to be "beamed up" --- it's instant death.

yes, iv'e read the star fleet technical manual, and discussed this topic
many times.

Me = Trekkie = guilty as charged.

Kev

a reply to: AdamE

The Anderson Institute certainly have an interesting logo.

Here is the finished article alongside Jim Penniston's early ideas from his 1980 sketch. Or was it 2002, or 1997?



I may waste a little time on checking this out more. Or maybe I won't have to waste any time at all?

a reply to: mirageman

Yes... if a past or current employee of that institute wanted to share
information that would be fascinating!

If only we knew someone like that who would participate on that topic
in this thread.

a reply to: mirageman

That should get John Burroughs motor running!!

Hey! I have an idea.

Let's get to know each other just a little better.

I want to know this:

"Why do you live in this RFI thread?"
"What is your primary interest about it?"
"What do you hope to accomplish?"

I'll start.

"Why do you live in this RFI thread?"

Originally I came to the thread, looking for corroboration for my selection bias,
that sentient plasma was somehow involved in the incident.

Over time I came to realize that while EM / Plasma was probably involved,
it was almost certainly due to some mix of human experimentation and one
or more natural BOL attracted by the experimentation.

I stay in the thread out of intertia, as i like the people in it, and there's
still intelligent conversion to be had.. some of which is off topic.. but
good UFO threads basically don't exist.. so here I remain.

There is also a slow trickle of updates about RFI, so that's good.. RFI
has become like a minor hobby to me.

"What is your primary interest about it?"

I'm fascinated by the technologies that may or may not be in play,
that as a side effect appear to attract BOL and may or may not
directly be affecting human consciousness with or without the
attracted BOL.

Peeling back all the lies and deceit is also entertaining.

"What do you hope to accomplish?"

Any further understanding of technologies that existed at the
time, that were involved, and how they have continued to
evolve would be interesting.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

"Why do you live in this RFI thread?"

I created it. Not quite the house that Jacques built.

"What is your primary interest about it?"

Well at one time (specifically October 1983) I really thought we'd found a real ET UFO.

"What do you hope to accomplish?"

I really don't know any more. I am thinking of writing Rendlesham the Musical next what do you reckon?

a reply to: AdamE



You might find the above Dr. David Anderson interview with dearly departed Art Bell useful. it covers some of his time control research. I haven't listened to it since I got the time traveller of the year award back in 2052.

It's not the full show but I am sure a resourceful man like yourself will have no problem locating it if required Adam.

a reply to: mirageman

You are killing me Mirageman. I have nearly died laughing!!!