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Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

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posted on Mar, 2 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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Or to pretend he has no memory
Makes one wonder who and how he was messed with ,or who / what caused him to not remember
Is it real or convenient
If we only knew !!!




posted on Mar, 2 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: Sedonabird

Perhaps the notebook question and it's spurious date is too difficult a question for you to answer at present. However Colonel Halt recently said in the Kevin Randle interview posted earlier that Amn. Burroughs could be difficult to deal with.

Any experience of that yourself?



posted on Mar, 2 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: Sedonabird

That is disturbing?



posted on Mar, 2 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Sedonabird
"John has changed his story from craft, object, lights to no memory"
There was no mention of an object or craft in John Burroughs' original witness statement like there was in Jim Penniston's.


originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Sedonabird

Perhaps the notebook question and it's spurious date is too difficult a question for you to answer at present.
Ian Ridpath wrote an excellent analysis of that date in Penniston's notebook, and noted that it seems strange Penniston used civilian time instead of military time since he was allegedly in the military at the time he wrote that. However if he wrote it at a later date when he wasn't in the military, then using a civilian time begins to make more sense.

Ridpath also documents how Penniston's explanation of the incorrect date has varied from "it's correct" (and we know it can't be), to it was the date of the binary code, not the craft sighting, but that makes no sense because he's talking about his alleged craft sighting there, not the binary code, so why would the binary code date appear there? Way too many inconsistencies and implausible, changing explanations.

The only believable version is what Penniston told Conrad, that he never got within 50 meters of the object and it kept moving away from him as he tried to get closer to it, because other witnesses confirm that account of events. Even that is only believable to the extent that it's an accurate account of what Penniston perceived, it doesn't mean it's an accurate account of what actually happened, allowing for misperceptions which Jenny Randles later came to think played a key role.

Jenny Randles change of heart

In 2010, Jenny Randles, one of the co-authors of the 1984 book Sky Crash: A Cosmic Conspiracy, eventually voiced her doubts that the incident had ever had anything to do with extraterrestrial visitors: "Whilst some puzzles remain, we can probably say that no unearthly craft were seen in Rendlesham Forest. We can also argue with confidence that the main focus of the events was a series of misperceptions of everyday things encountered in less than everyday circumstances."



posted on Mar, 2 2017 @ 06:03 PM
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To pretend would insinuate John is lying..




posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Sedonabird

Perhaps the notebook question and it's spurious date is too difficult a question for you to answer at present. However Colonel Halt recently said in the Kevin Randle interview posted earlier that Amn. Burroughs could be difficult to deal with.

Any experience of that yourself?

Yep- a difficult guy to deal with. He doesn't handle questions well.. also doesn't deal with conflicts well on a one on one .. he will go off on others who aren't involved rather than deal directly .. rather inept



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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Yep- a difficult guy to deal with. He doesn't handle questions well.. also doesn't deal with conflicts well on a one on one .. he will go off on others who aren't involved rather than deal directly .. rather inept
a reply to: Sedonabird

A "difficult" personality then. Why does he not handle questions well do you think?



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep



Yep- a difficult guy to deal with. He doesn't handle questions well.. also doesn't deal with conflicts well on a one on one .. he will go off on others who aren't involved rather than deal directly .. rather inept
a reply to: Sedonabird

A "difficult" personality then. Why does he not handle questions well do you think?

Not a psychiatrist



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

I believe it and that's all that matters.


One of the men, SSgt. Jim Penniston claims to have touched an unidentifiable black triangular craft with strange glyph like markings and received a ‘binary download’ from it. Nearby John Burroughs described it as a bank of lights in the forest whilst Ed Cabansag was further back and describes a similar experience to Burroughs.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
a reply to: mirageman

I believe it and that's all that matters.


One of the men, SSgt. Jim Penniston claims to have touched an unidentifiable black triangular craft with strange glyph like markings and received a ‘binary download’ from it. Nearby John Burroughs described it as a bank of lights in the forest whilst Ed Cabansag was further back and describes a similar experience to Burroughs.


Greatest secret ever told copy written by iml527 march, 3 3017

For along time mortals of this world have depicted them as crafts with engines some cases orbs other cases separate UFO. My team and I have found them not to be of ships, orbs, probes etc. Engines are obsolete from this program but the program of engines and aliens runs strong amongst the populace.

These three specific angelic interdementional beings have been your saucers your triangle space ships, your orbs your probes, throughout your history. Earth's history.

Please delete this program of space ships and look at three entities that just communicated with a human, please delete this program of a spaceship and aliens ,we will not bring a 50 year programs into the year of the ‘7s’ 3017.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 06:41 AM
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Just a .s up for everyone. I arranged for Col Charles Halt to appear on Alyson Dunlops ADX Files Enemy Within Radio Show. It airs tonight at 5pm UK time and he will be in the chat room for the duration of the show 5pm - 7pm UK time.

Here is the link to the ADX files spreaker page. www.spreaker.com...

See you in there if you can make it. All conversation in the chat box will be left as is for all to read if you miss the show.

Ttfn



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 07:56 AM
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Not a psychiatrist
a reply to: Sedonabird

You will need to do more research then.....



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep
Well , apparently you think you know why he changes his story .. please feel free to share your thoughts



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 06:22 AM
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originally posted by: Sedonabird
a reply to: Baablacksheep
Well , apparently you think you know why he changes his story .. please feel free to share your thoughts


I pointed out for you to continue with your research into John Burroughs as it seems this still is a puzzle to you.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Sedonabird

Well, difficult as he may be, John Burroughs story has remained fairly consistent since he first went public with it. Maybe he acts and talks differently in private. Perhaps he did receive a little help from his friends to win his case with the VA? He may have even forgot a few things as the years went by. But his basic story still remains fairly close to what he said in his witness statement.

To make .way in this case we really need to know why that notebook shows the date of "Dec 27th 1980". You don't make mistakes like that with the date when you are on duty on Christmas night/Boxing Day morning.

The explanations proffered so far have all been unsatisfactory. The most likely scenario is that it was written long after the incident and the date of the 27th Dec 80 was written to match the Halt memo. But maybe Penniston really was out there on a different night and this is being covered up.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: infomaniachousewife
Just a .s up for everyone. I arranged for Col Charles Halt to appear on Alyson Dunlops ADX Files Enemy Within Radio Show. It airs tonight at 5pm UK time and he will be in the chat room for the duration of the show 5pm - 7pm UK time.

Here is the link to the ADX files spreaker page. www.spreaker.com...

See you in there if you can make it. All conversation in the chat box will be left as is for all to read if you miss the show.

Ttfn
Unfortunately what Halt describes is inconsistent with what he described earlier, which was a light near the direction of the Farmhouse, and the Orford Ness lighthouse is also near the direction of the lighthouse from his perspective.

In that session he says they could see the orford Ness lighthouse 30 degrees off to the right while they were looking at the object near the farmhouse.

Look at the photo on this page taken by Ian Ridpath which clearly shows the Orford Ness light house is not 30 degrees off to the right of the farmhouse as Halt now claims:

www.ianridpath.com...

Halt has been challenged on this and on the fact that the 5-second interval on his tape between flashes matches the 5 second interval between Orford Ness light house flashes, and his responses to both of these challenges are totally unsatisfactory.

I thought it was interesting when he said he needed money to put his daughter through college, and he's not going to sell any books to raise that kind of money by admitting it was the lighthouse.

I was able to download the recording and listen to it, but I wasn't able to find the chat box conversation.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 05:20 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Sedonabird

Well, difficult as he may be, John Burroughs story has remained fairly consistent since he first went public with it. Maybe he acts and talks differently in private. Perhaps he did receive a little help from his friends to win his case with the VA? He may have even forgot a few things as the years went by. But his basic story still remains fairly close to what he said in his witness statement.

To make .way in this case we really need to know why that notebook shows the date of "Dec 27th 1980". You don't make mistakes like that with the date when you are on duty on Christmas night/Boxing Day morning.

The explanations proffered so far have all been unsatisfactory. The most likely scenario is that it was written long after the incident and the date of the 27th Dec 80 was written to match the Halt memo. But maybe Penniston really was out there on a different night and this is being covered up.
GAG



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 06:53 AM
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Well, difficult as he may be, John Burroughs story has remained fairly consistent since he first went public with it. Maybe he acts and talks differently in private. Perhaps he did receive a little help from his friends to win his case with the VA? He may have even forgot a few things as the years went by. But his basic story still remains fairly close to what he said in his witness statement.
a reply to: mirageman

It appears you are giving John Burroughs a "Get out of jail card". tsk tsk




posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep



Well, difficult as he may be, John Burroughs story has remained fairly consistent since he first went public with it. Maybe he acts and talks differently in private. Perhaps he did receive a little help from his friends to win his case with the VA? He may have even forgot a few things as the years went by. But his basic story still remains fairly close to what he said in his witness statement.
a reply to: mirageman

It appears you are giving John Burroughs a "Get out of jail card". tsk tsk


Actually his story has changed over time. I would not give him a get out of jail free card, actually, I wouldn't give him the time of day . We've talked in person
He doesn't react well to questions and opinions. I would rather give him a .. get your act together card !!
edit on 6-3-2017 by Sedonabird because: !



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Sedonabird



Actually his story has changed over time....


Please give examples.




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