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originally posted by: ianrid
a reply to: FireMoon
Oh, dear. And there I was thinking what a civilized discussion we were having without that chap whose main debating technique is to hurl insults at everyone. Thought you’d been banned.
Happy ranting in 2017,
.....Regarding attribution for the lighthouse explanation, I have always given local forester Vince Thurkettle credit for pointing out the lighthouse as the likely source of the flashing light to the east and I am happy to reiterate that......
See : link
......members of the British security services went house to house in the area in the days following the incidents asking did any local see anything strange over those three nights
When I interviewed Boeche about this in 2007, he told me with respect to his DoD informants: “I found it interesting that they would mention Rendlesham at the meeting. They said there was a sense that this was maybe, in some sense, staged. Or that some of the senior people there were more concerned with the reaction of the men – how they responded to the situation, rather than what was actually going on. That this was some sort of psychotronic device, a hologram, to see what sort of havoc they can wreak with people. But even if it was a type of hologram, they said it could interact with the environment. The tree marks and the pod marks at the landing site were indications of that. But how can you have a projected thing like a hologram that also has material, physical capabilities? They wouldn’t elaborate on this.”
Thanks for fixing that!
originally posted by: Springer
a reply to: ianrid
I corrected the the italics issue. Thanks for the excellent information Ian.
Virtually all of them? Does that include Lieutenant Fred A. Buran?
originally posted by: FireMoon
Personally, i have a lot of time for all the witnesses as they were party to something that their training did not take into account and it;s my firm belief that, virtually all of those involved believe what happened to therm was real.
And if Buran was forced to sign a false statement, why would he bother to join that same forum and make the following statements there:
I don't see much conflict between the claims of this eyewitness and what Ian Ridpath says. Some of the other witnesses deviate from Ian's story as you say, but you should also note that their stories have not remained consistent over the years, which has been the subject of considerable discussion already in this thread.
“I am dismayed that the story seems to have taken on dimensions never initially reported and very often assumes facts not shown by all the investigations. ”
“Folks, there was nothing in the forest that night but the lights (which have been explained) and maybe some SPs goofing around. But I fully understand that I can change no one's beliefs about this. ”
“I wish I had denied permission to even send anyone out there, and would have, except for the possibility that an aircraft crash may have occurred.
Then we wouldn't have had some strange, probably misidentified, lights becoming a UFO with beings on board, strange symbols and the AFOSI interrogating active service members in secret underground areas, which to my knowledge, DO NOT exist at RAF Bentwaters.
What rubbish. It gets better as time goes on, which means more prevarication occurs as time goes on. ”
“Had a crash been the case, we would have notified the appropriate civil authority to handle and offered assistance. As it turned out, we were just chasing lights. ”
“I never saw the need to talk to anyone about us wasting time and manpower chasing lights in the forest. ”
“Oh, and I never talked to anyone until Georgina Bruni contacted me because.....no one ever asked me.
And, unfortunately, I still feel that chasing lights in the forest has gotten way out of hand, to the point that good people's reputations may be harmed because the story as presented is not believed.
Once and for all, there was nothing in the forest that night. Too many would have reported it had there been anything to it. ”
“Just can't waste my time on this rubbish anymore guys. And I have been away on, in fact, several trips, I have job commitments above and beyond non-existent UFOs.
Have fun. I'm done. ”
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Buran: "And, unfortunately, I still feel that chasing lights in the forest has gotten way out of hand, to the point that good people's reputations may be harmed because the story as presented is not believed."
LT COLONEL HALT: It's coming this way.
LT COLONAL HALT: It is definitely coming this way.
SGT BALL: Look to the left!
SGT NEVELS: Yeah, definitely moving. There's two...two lights. One light to the front and one light to the left.
SGT BALL: .. it just moved to the right... it moved off to the right.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah ... strange, whoohh.
LT COLONEL HALT: Ten degrees off the horizon, and the ones to the north are moving, one's moving away from us.
SGT BALL: Movin forward!
SGT NEVELS: It's moving out fast!
LT COLONEL HALT: They're moving out fast.
SGT BALL: This one on the right's heading away too.
LT COLONEL HALT: Yeah, they're both heading north. Ok hey, here he comes from the south, he's coming in toward us now.
SGT BALL: Holy s**t!
But these lights were not stationary, and there was more than one.