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Jersey woman gets DUI, calls friend for ride. Friend gets DUI, calls another fried that friend gets

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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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Ahh..Drunkintoxicatedhightxt'ingdistracted drivers.. About as selfish a person as their is taking multiple peoples lives into their own hands.

In this article it tells the story of a woman that gets arrested for DUI and calls a friend for a ride from the police station, that friend gets arrested for a DUI and calls another friend for a ride from the police station, that 3 friend gets arrested for a DUI.

Seriously..I get it..people feel the need to drink..alcoholism is a disease.. blood alcohol doesnt mean drunk. All the normal justifications I see drunk drivers use and I am focused on drunk drivers on this post because that is what the article is about. I don't know what the solution is. If a cowardly drunk driver wants to fix their life then they will get sober and act like an adult. if they want to continue to live like a fool then each time they get arrested the repercussions should get stronger until they realize how dangerous drinking and driving is.


Multiple people get DUI

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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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Since when do you get arrested for DWI and are let free to go? Ride or not.

Last I heard, a DWI was an automatic night in jail? Is Jersey different?


First New Jersey DWI offense with BAC of .08% but less than .10%: You’ll lose your New Jersey license for three months; pay a fine ranging from $250 to $400, mandatory 12 to 48 hour stay at an Intoxicated Driver Resource Center (IDRC) with related fees, and insurance surcharges of $1,000 a year for three years. You may also be required to spend up to 30 days in jail.


dwi-attorney-new-jersey.com...

Something just isn't adding up here.

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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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DUI and DWI are different charges. Driving under the influence and driving while intoxicated.


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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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Same thing in Jersey as far as punishment:


First offense, BAC.08% to .10%: Fine: $250-$400

Incarceration: “not less than 12 hours nor more than 48 hours spent during two consecutive days of not less than six hours each day and served . . . [at] the Intoxicated Driver Resource Center . . . and, in the discretion of the Court, a term of imprisonment of not more than 30 days.”

Loss of license: 3 months New Jersey DMV Surcharge: $1,000 per year for three years

Other Fines & Costs: $200.00 DWI Enforcement Fund, $50.00 Violent Crime Compensation Board Fund, $75.00 Safe Neighborhood Fund, 200.00 NJ MVC Restoration Charge(s), $150.00 Intoxicated Driver Resource Center (IDRC) Fee(s) (Additional fees for out-patient counseling as referred by the IDRC), and up to $33.00 in Court Costs


www.newjersey-dui-attorney.com...


New Jersey First Offense DUI/DWI

The penalties and fines for a New Jersey first offense DUI/DWI are as follows:


Jail time: The maximum jail sentence for a first offense conviction is 30 days. The actual amount of jail time served, if any will be at the courts discretion.

Fines: The fines for a first offense conviction for a BAC level above .08%, but less than .10% is between $250 and $400 plus applicable court costs. The fines for a first offense conviction for a BAC of .10% or greater is between $300 and $500 plus applicable court costs.

You will also have to pay additional fees totaling $1,325, $50 goes to VCCB, $100 goes to DDEF, $75 goes to SNSF, $1,000 for DUI (for 3-years), and $100 is a general surcharge.

License Suspension: As long as you submitted to a chemical test your license will be suspended for 3-months. If you refused the chemical test, your license will be suspended for 1-year.

Before the DMV will reinstate your license following your suspension period you will be required to show proof of financial responsibility in the form of a New Jersey SR22 insurance policy that meets the states minimum auto insurance liability coverage limits.

Ignition Interlock: First time offenders may be ordered to install an ignition interlock device on their vehicle for between 6-months and 1-year. If an IID is required the MVC will require proof of the installation prior to reinstating your license.

Alcohol Treatment: You may be required to participate in an intoxicated driver resource center or IDRC for 12 to 48 hours. The cost for the IDRC treatment will be $230 per day at your expense.


www.duiprocess.com...

Notice the jail time is listed under the courts discretion and not the arresting officers.....
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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Additional reading clears it up i think so i will modify the original post.

" The arrest of a local woman here on drunken driving charges led to the arrest of both people who went to pick her up at the police station for the same offense, police reported Thursday"

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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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I got a DWI five years ago, and will never get one again. There's no reason to drive after being over the limit.

I can go in a bar right now, take a shot, and slam a beer, and be under the limit. No need to do more than that.

I can so see how something like this could happen to a friend who is also intoxicated, but to see it continue on to a third friend? What are the chances. Sheesh!



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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NJ will let them go I saw the judge let the third time DWI clown go in front of me, then throw me in jail for not having insurance (Obviously cause I was poor and the DWI had a lawyer) I had a public pretender.
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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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Not one of these judges follow the law as long as you have money you'll get off, if you're poor you're probably not able to buy drinks to get drunk but if you are and are caught driving that's the only ones who actually get prosecuted. The poor ones, but we see this in every facet just look at the rich 16 yr old clown that killed those people doing the very same thing drunk driving and under the age as well. We know there is no real justice in the U.S.A anymore some states are worse than others. NJ is criminally corrupt.
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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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She didn't have any completely sober friends or family that could have picked her up?
No one that hadn't had any drinks?

Crazy....



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 01:58 PM
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Why would anyone who has been drinking think it is a good idea to go to the police station to pick up someone who was arrested for drinking. How does that person not see the potential for a problem with it. Guess the logic part of the brain is on standby.

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Is this the drunken snowball effect
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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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roadgravel
Why would anyone who has been drinking think it is a good idea to go to the police station to pick up someone who was arrested for drinking. How does that person not see the potential for a problem with it. Guess the logic part of the brain is on standby.

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Is this the drunken snowball effect
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Because they know they won't get charged they probably have wads of money so they know it'll be dismissed at court always is for these guys. Rich folk buy their way out of everything.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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She should have climbed into the back seat to sleep it off. Oh wait! That's a crime too.

I got stopped last Saturday night at a checkpoint. I was the designated driver and had NOTHING to drink. The Breathalyzer registered a 0.000. Then the cop asked for the car registration. When he found out that it wasn't my car and that the owner was one of the people that I was driving, he tried to say that because the owner of the car was intoxicated, he couldn't give conscent for me to be driving the car. I told him to write the citation, my lawyer, who was in the backseat would love it. He told me to just go home.

DUI / DWI is a racket. People on ATS complain about their rights being violated on everything else, but, they are in favor of DUI suspect's rights being violated. Forced to blow in a breathalyzer, forced blood draws, automatic license suspension without a hearing, denied the right to legal counsul, I could go on and on.

Please don't give me "you haven't lost anybody to a drunk driver" bit, because I have. I have also had to go to the Morgue to identify my roommate and his girl friend who were killed by a drunk driver. The man who killed them had ben arrested several times for DUI, but, the local Magistrate let him plead to reckless driving each time. The reason for this is that the fine money for DUI goes to the State, but the fine for reckless driving stays in the County and helps pay the Magistrate's salary.

I have no problem with slamming the drunk driver who is a threat to himself or others, I do have a problem with how out of control the government has become when it comes to DUI. I mean arresting a man riding his kid's Power Wheels Jeep in his own driveway, or a man cutting his lawn on a riding mower.

The lawyer that I referred to earlier, defended a woman who got picked up for DUI right after she got off work. The breathalyzer registered a .08 and she was charged with DUI. She insisted on a blood test. The blood test registered .04. She was still charged with DUI because the Prosecutor decided to ignore the the blood test and charged her based on the Breathalyzer. The lawyer got the charges dropped, after obtaining the results of the blood test. The blood test showed .04 of Methyl Alcohol and .00 from Ethyl Alcohol. The woman was a nurse at the local hospital. The hospital has a policy that nurses use a Methyl Alcohol based hand sanitizer upon entering and leaving a patient's room. Some of the alcohol from the sanitizer is absorbed by her hands and leaves her system through the breath. Her lawyer obtained a Breathalyzer and had her and several other doctors and nurses blow into it after finishing their shift. All of them registered over a .04.

If you think that I'm blowing smoke, Lawrence Taylor has an excellant website on the scam that is DUI / DWI. DUI Blog


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posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Drunk driving = bad decision making. Plain and simple. As a society we have become more harsh in regards and National averages are dropping every year but it still is our choice. I made the very bad choice when I was 18. At 18 the limit is .02 & I blew a .05. That was 15 years ago and it was pretty much a slap on the wrist. I lost my license for 30 days I think & had a $500 fine. I also had to take a weekend class and that was it. Thankfully as I've gotten older I've become wiser but also the punishment is much harsh. Definitely pay the $30 for a cab.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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JIMC5499
If you think that I'm blowing smoke, Lawrence Taylor has an excellant website on the scam that is DUI / DWI.
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Or..
You could choose not to drive drunk or high and then you wont have to deal with the scam that is DUI/DWI.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:23 PM
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opethPA

JIMC5499
If you think that I'm blowing smoke, Lawrence Taylor has an excellant website on the scam that is DUI / DWI.
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Or..
You could choose not to drive drunk or high and then you wont have to deal with the scam that is DUI/DWI.


Define drunk? I don't get high.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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Iowa is an automatic day in jail.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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JIMC5499
Define drunk? I don't get high.


Intoxicated to the point of mental and physical impairment.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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The old pyramid scheme to make money.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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Good definition. It is a shame that it isn't being used.



posted on Dec, 23 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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My first and only DUI some 17 years ago, I was handed my keys after I blew fail in the back of the mobile DUI testing vehicle. I received my order to appear and was let out at the side of the road. "TRAP" I yelled in my mind. I paced the sidewalk nearly 10 times peering around corners for a cruiser waiting for me. Nothing.

I drove home.

Those were my younger crazy years.

ETA: Oh, and I never did that again for the record.
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