So what research needs to be done?
Can we find the raw data of what he has released? It's great how I can read about how he has evidence the NSA is able to listen to the cell phone
conversations of Netanyahu; but is there any evidence that I can hear for myself? Are there any publicly available details of HOW, specifically HOW
right down to the bit size of the malformed packets used to trip up an industrial strength router with in the Israeli cell phone carrier used by
For those who might say that releasing this information would only increase snooping; I disagree. As soon as he released the technical details
governments, and even people like you and me, could find ways to protect ourselves from the snooping techniques used and keep safe our own privacy.
But this is all assuming that the NSA is accumulating MASSIVE amounts of data. The size of the data collection being claimed is MONSTROUS. It's hard
to fathom all of the GPS signals, internet packets, cell phone streams, data and cellphone connections, iirc chats, peer to peer connections, and ISP
traffic streams. The size of the data is quite literally INFINITE. As I type this it is only growing; and until the idea of electricity powering
communication it will be forever growing. The amount of data could be analogous to the issues with the healthcare.gov website multiplied the amount of
our debt and unfunded liabilities (which is $70,000,000,000,000) and even that is low balling the complexity of storing the data that has so many
paranoid. Every deleted tweet, text message, email, chat session, team speak conversation, phone call, or phone GPS location in the nation, even
world, is such an astronomically large undertaking. To think it can be done is to be in a state of schizophrenic delusion or complete technological
Mao, couldn't read every letter sent to a family member in China; but he had agents that propagated the idea he could. Hitler didn't have an agency
that was aware of every back alley conversation, but he had an agency that claimed they did. Stalin didn't know the political leanings of every person
in Moscow, but the red coats were determined to make the people believe he could.
It doesn't matter if a government doesn't know the origination and destination of every item of communication. The only important thing is that the
people, even allies and enemies, believe that you can. And I fear that Snowden's mission is to get the people accustomed into believing that very
concept, to create so much of a belief in the people that the government tracks all things digital that the people will voluntarily place others,
their own neighbor's and fellow citizens, into prisons over the claims; regardless if they be true. An easy avenue to place dissenters where the power
elite want them, behind bars and in chains. The Soviet's called them gulags, the Nazi's called them concentration camps, and the Maoists' called them
I'm an atheist, and I don't believe in things I don't fully understand. If you stick me on a jury and some technical expert tells me these IP routes
and packets belong to this person because it can be proved with a technical government log I will find the person NOT guilty. I want proof like
multiple witnesses identifying the person. In other words, I find reasonable doubt in evidence I can't see, touch, or hear; and sometimes that isn't
even enough in today's world. It must be evidence I can understand; if it's so complicated that it requires government certification it is flawed
evidence. In my mind, we can assume this philosophy logically because we can have reasonable doubt in the motivations of our corrupt and deceitful
people of power.
People are claiming our government has digital omnipotence just as Christians claim God is omnipotent of every action and thought. Believing in either
is incredibly dangerous for society if you have self centered narcissists in your clergy or government.
Speak your mind freely; do not be intimidated. If a person's life is every put in your hands, consider the fact the government may want them out of
their way for entirely undisclosed reasons due to their non-conforming beliefs. They may just be there because they believe the rich should be taxed
at a 70% rate; or they may be there because they feel no man's wage should be taxed more than 30%. Thought and expression is an individual's right;
and every group people in power that have ever claimed omnipotence have used lies to place innocent families into the confines of death and
Trust but verify. In my mind Edward Snowden has yet to prove to me by my logic he's on the right side of the people. I pray to nothingness that
suspicion is unfounded.
Trust but verify, sometimes the wolf does unimaginable and unpredictable things to dress like a sheep.
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