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reply to post by Pardon?
Except that the vast majority of untoward effects are not reported because the people experiencing them don't know where to report them or even what they are, and the doctors who see them don't bother, or have no way of tracing the effects back to the instigator of them.
'Long term trials' is a joke meant to protect the vaccine and drug manufacturers and amounts to utterly no oversight whatsoever.
And to the poster who thinks that unvaccinated nurses will kill their elderly relatives off, each party wearing a mask and washing their hands will do far more to avoid a host of germs, not just the ones supposedly kept at bay by vaccination. It's the grouping of sick, elderly and at-risk populations in one place, being taken care of by younger people with kids with colds back home that causes the germ exposure, not the lack of a flu shot (what nurse is going to come to work when they're sick? Flu knocks you on your ass. And if they were just exposed and are therefore 'carriers', whether or not they had a flu shot for that or some other bug doesn't negate the dangers. Their clothes are not sterile, nor is their skin.)
The truth of the matter is that elderly people are at risk simply because they're elderly. Is gramma getting the flu shot? Then gramma shouldn't get that flu, right? End of story, if it works as planned.
What you want is only perfect people caring for gramma; what you're really advocating is long term short staffing of gramma's nursing home, which will kill far more people and mean gramma won't get her diapers changed nearly so often, and will lay there in dirty bedsheets far longer on a given day; is that what you want? Perhaps you'd like to go into the nursing field yourself, if you think it's an easy job consisting only of taking flu shots regularly... you have no idea of the status of the nursing field now and how marginal it is; look up your local hospital's help wanted listings and count the number of open nursing positions. It's staggering. Now ask yourself why, with the extent of unemployment everywhere, those positions aren't getting filled, especially for a job that pays very well after just two years training.
Nurses have more power than they realize. I've seen it exercised before with spectacular results. TEN MINUTES after instituting a hospital-wide policy (not regarding vaccines), the nurses rebelled on one floor only and the new policy was overturned.
Nurses have to be willing to walk away from their jobs. They have to be willing to say , "I am not public property!"
The whole concept of expecting people to physically endanger themselves and the lives of their unborn children in order to satisfy someone else's expectations is an endorsement for slavery. Nurses are not consumable commodities for people in need to use up. They need to look at the contracts they're expected to sign and say "No thank you" to being disposable resources.