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Obviously, there is clearly a known risk.
she did not want to out the health and safety of her BABY at risk.
A lot of,you arguing for the fact that she should have gotten the flu shot because she is potentially putting others at risk seem to have missed the point that she is pregnant. The shot itself has a warning about giving it to pregnant women - she did not want to out the health and safety of her BABY at risk.
reply to post by Pardon?
In the UK you have to have certain vaccines depending on your area of work.
So for example if you work in Infectious disease's you must be vaccines against pretty much everything (including flu)
If you work in trauma or in theater you need to be vaccinated against blood born viruses
Most also require MMR, Tetanus and BCG (although I have never been required to get the flu shot)
But its a issue of patient safety.
we are trained using a strong evidence base and the evidence overwhelming support for the validity of vaccines.
If i did not get my hep b jab for example and got a needle stick there is a very small chance i could wind up with Heb-B. So there i am running around with this nasty blood born virus in my system looking after your dear old mum when one day i go to give her her daily shot of Fragmin and the needle slips, it goes through my skin and into hers.
She has now been exposed to my hep-B.
And believe me even though the changes of contracting a virus from a needle is minute but the worry that it can cause you if you have ever been pricked by a needle you know to be dirty is not worth it.
So it take shots for everything and never had a problem because i have been in that situation where i have been waiting to find out if the junky had hep or HIV
flu is the same,
would you really feel comfortable sitting in a ICU with your dear old mum and i start coughing and complaining about how i have "just got over a touch of the flu".
of course you wouldn't, you would probably demand another nurse until I had been clear for 48 hours (which is standard policy anyway) because you would know that my little bout of flu could be the think that kills your dear old mum.
All nurses going into the profession know they we all know that we have to get the jabs as a matter of patient safety, we also know there are some exceptions but in general we need them.
I agree that what has happened to this nurse sucks but at the same time i can understand it.
reply to post by boncho
Ok, maybe the MRSA deaths were not comparable, but MRSA damages bodies it does not kill, so it is a danger nonetheless.
Also, you completely ignored the deaths from mistakes and incompetence. My point is they are making an example out of this woman, who has mitigating circumstances, to prevent deaths, is ridiculous. In that case, they also need to fire all their incompetent nurses and staff.
Some other type of accommodations could have been made.
Nurses should never be forced to put their baby at risk by having a shot that could cause harm. and no employer should ask it, especially not a HOSPITAL.
Doesn't it go against the grain of what they are there for.
Surely there should be provision for the babies of nurses to be protected, by moving them to another area until it is safe for the jab?
You ask how people would react over a nurse coughing, well how would you react if you new your nurse had put her own baby at risk for her JOB, it would make me look at her differently.
Wow, more idiocy from the 'YOU NEED TO GET A SHOT TO PROTECT ME, ME, ME' crowd.
Meanwhile, stay the hell home the next time you, poor baby, think you're sick. All the medical personnel are sick of your whining and bringing your germs into their workplace. Stay home and croak with your germs that weren't put into obeisance by your precious flu shot.
Flu can be transmitted in an aerosol like manner by coughing and/or sneezing.
Simple hygiene helps but doesn't stop it spreading.
Having the flu jab stops you getting the flu and spreading it.
This is a simple preventative measure that works.
If nurses refuse a mandatory jab, they will be disciplined.
There is far more evidence to suggest that a pregnant woman who gets the flu will do more harm to her foetus than will happen from having the flu shot.
So, looking the evidence, she has NO mitigating circumstances.
If she is incapable of understanding the empirical and proven evidence put to her about the safety of the jab and still point-blank refuses to have it then not only is she incapable of looking after patients but her whole competency level has to be brought into question.