posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 03:37 PM
reply to post by spooky24
Don't make assumptions about me and thank you for the ad hominems. Resorting to such things, at least to me, means that you're floundering.
It is my opinion that a significant portion of those working in our intelligence agencies are most likely good people with the nation's best interest
at heart. In fact, my son has had it suggested to him to go in such a field and I wholeheartedly support him on that because he is a good kid and
exactly the type of person that I would like to see in such a field. However, I'm also a bit of a pragmatist and a realist. I sincerely doubt that
those are the kind of people that would be put in positions where they would have to do some dirty work. Moral ambiguity for those kind of jobs.
Where did I get such an idea? Well, let's take a look at Sydney Gottlieb, shall we? Sydney Gottlieb was the head of Project MK-ULTRA.
The C.I.A. awarded Mr. Gottlieb the Distinguished Intelligence Medal and deliberately destroyed most of the MKUltra records in 1973.
So he was awarded a Distinguished Intelligence Medal which was not stripped from him after the Church Committee Report. He also suffered no jail time
Gottlieb's life after the CIA resembled a quest for atonement. With his wife Margaret, he spent 18 months in India running a leper hospital. He
then moved back to rural Virginia, where he indulged two longstanding hobbies, folk dancing and goat herding. He devoted his final years to work in a
hospice, looking after the dying. The
So here we have a man who headed one of the most infamous and disturbing projects within our country's history. I've read the Church Committee Report
on MK-ULTRA and what I read was disturbing. Did you know that, under the MK-ULTRA umbrella, they were experimenting with amnesia drugs on dying
cancer patients in hospice? I find that a pretty morally repugnant thing to do with the last few weeks/months of a person's life.
I care very deeply for our soldiers and quite potentially more than you. My grandfather was a former NAF Chief of Staff and a former atomic veteran.
I have no blinders on my eyes at all for what our government can do in its pursuit of science, including the deliberate exposure of our troops to
radiation in operations such as Crossroads or Upshot-Knothole where the government ignored the issues for about 40 years until they passed the
Radiation Exposure Compensation Act in 1990. Do you know how many of those exposed vets died feeling like guinea pigs before they decided to
acknowledge it? Let's talk about Edgewood, shall we? I'm not the one who denied them the ability to have any sort of recourse when it turns out that
they were experimented upon without their consent (United States v. Stanley, 483 U.S. 669). Stanley didn't have any sort of recompense until 1996.
18 years of legal battles. That wasn't me but you know what? I remember it and will state it. We treat our troops like dirt sometimes and it's
I'm also not the one, when facing a cut to the DoD budget, that made the decision to take that cut out of veteran's benefits. I find that deeply
disrespectful and repugnant. I actually fight for the sake of our veterans. I want our troops to be treated the way that they deserve. Not like
guinea pigs or cannon fodder. As long as we remain blind to what our government does wrong, then these things do not get corrected.
I'm not paranoid. I harbor no delusions and nobody is out to get me. I'm after the ones harming them.
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