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Can existence be a property?

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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 05:10 AM
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I feel existence is the linear & logical examination of one of unlimited possibility's threads of potential within the unlimited potential of nothing. Everything doesn't exist YET.

Nothing has existed or didn't. Either way, anything can begin from a point of nothing.

If creation, inventions and ideas stem from us, then we (consciousness) are actually that nothing. The conduit of threads composed of linear, logical perspective examination of potential and the testing of it. Eventually leading to approval for something to exist.

We never truly build anything before it's built for the first time. If it existed at all, it would have already been built for the first time. Before the idea and subsequent internal dialogue/testing began, the item existed within nothing and transmitted through as the linear time allowed that thread of inspiration to be unlocked.

Nothing is the source and contains all potential, both realized and unrealized. The more we build, until we've run out of ideas, we become nothing as everything.

Maybe time is the equals sign in the equation between nothing and perceived existence, but not a factor.




posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 05:32 AM
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What can be said to exist?
Seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling and touching - are these things?

Existence is 'made' of experience.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 08:38 AM
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Itisnowagain
What can be said to exist?
Seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling and touching - are these things?

Existence is 'made' of experience.


These are concerned with being which is a property of existence. In common language we say 'The apple exists' but this use of common language has confused the meaning of the word 'exist' so we get bogged down in the meaning of words. Existence is substance it is not what things do. See my first opening post.
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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 08:41 AM
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EnPassant

Itisnowagain
What can be said to exist?
Seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling and touching - are these things?

Existence is 'made' of experience.


These are concerned with being which is a property of existence. In common language we say 'The apple exists' but this use of common language has confused the meaning of existence so we get bogged down in the meaning of words. Existence is substance. See my first opening post.

What substance is existence made of?

Apparent existence can only appear where there are eyes, ears etc.
Can you prove there is existence outside of awareness/ Can you prove there is existence outside this present moment?



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 08:47 AM
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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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How is an apple experienced?
It appears red/green, it has texture, smell, taste and flavour.

How can it be known to have existence without those tendencies?

Maybe there are no things, just tendencies.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:43 AM
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Existence is not made of anything other than existence. It is the primordial substance. It is what is from the beginning. The point of my first post is to present a logical argument for existence as a substance. I think my argument is correct, unless you can find a flaw in it?


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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:46 AM
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Itisnowagain
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How is an apple experienced?
It appears red/green, it has texture, smell, taste and flavour.

How can it be known to have existence without those tendencies?

Maybe there are no things, just tendencies.



An apple doesn't 'have' existence. It is a property of existence, of that which IS, from the beginning. Likewise with its texture, taste...
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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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EnPassant
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Existence is not made of anything. It is what is from the beginning. The point of my first post is to present a logical argument for existence as a substance. I think my argument is correct, unless you can find a flaw in it?


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Existence is here now. It cannot be proved that it is any other time.
What is presence made of??

Existence cannot be examined/measured any other time but presently.
Can existence measure itself? Can it separate itself and see itself?



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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Time is a property of existence. Time is the geometry of matter in motion and matter is a property of existence.

Perhaps existence can see itself by becoming all that it has become. You are a property of existence, so are the stars. You can see the stars...

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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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EnPassant
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Time is a property of existence.
Apparent existence is moving which gives rise to the concept of time. Are you ever not present?

You are seeing appearing existence.
Can you see the seer? Does what is seeing the thoughts and sensations ever appear to be seen?

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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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Jim Holt writes about this in his book Why does the World Exist?



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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EnPassant
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Jim Holt writes about this in his book Why does the World Exist?


The appearance that is here now is apparent existence.
It is words and concepts that make believe there is more.
Overcome the world by realizing that the world is just a bunch of ideas that build an abstract world.

Life, aliveness is where you are.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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Existence is a board term, that's why it helps to measure nothing.

There is present existence and absent existence.

Present existence is something that is here (in reality - now)
Absent existence is something not here (not appearing now).

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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 09:21 PM
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Consider a moment as a cross section of all reality.



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