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posted on Dec, 22 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”
― Albert Einstein


If this is true what do we have, energy and the void. I don't think it is possible to put a limit or to accurately define the void. So then the only question might be can energy ever stand still or is it by its very nature in a continuous state of motion? - And if that be the case then everything in existence is always in motion, and this would include the universe which is existent in an undefinable void.




posted on Dec, 22 2013 @ 02:47 PM
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@Is the Universe Moving?

Following the data that is shown, to 1 subjectively it appears things are built and exist within things in design or manifest here... Particles inside atoms atoms inside matter matter inside?
It is not a far reach to hypothesize that the solution that makes up the universe is possibly flowing like a massive ocean. Its density however may be different in different areas depending on cosmic influences within the different realms. So where Stars grow for example in the unseen parts of the solution where the visible matter is seen or observed it may be more expansive less dense as opposed to regions where no Stars are present for large distances where it may be more contracting dense (could CREATOR Creations exist there?) 1 still is processing...

OT, OP to conclude it may be flowing or is generated within something that contains its kinetic movements. That something and its barriers may be less kinetic in relation to those observing from within. As far as from outside of it, that would be another speculative Conspiracy for those CREATOR Creations WILLIng to seek that far into objective reality.

A thought...

Even though you may LOVE them ALL* is it wise to free them into the WHOLE* Access w/o learning to COEXIST?
That would allow areas that have matured conscious inhabitants to be affected by less matured behaviors-consciousness from Created that may have mastered techs and can travel dimensions or universe(s) and may spread void acts or social programs...
Allow them freedom within their generated manifested observed reality? and as maturity is observed from ABOVE ACCESS granted, like filter device of consciousness permitting matured thru eventually after Creation upon Creation hate or no LOVE is adjusted...
Find it odd the universe is assessed from EA*RTH to be 95%+/- un observable and less observed, could this be associated being within?

NAMASTE*******



posted on Dec, 22 2013 @ 05:10 PM
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AlienView


“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”
― Albert Einstein


If this is true what do we have, energy and the void. I don't think it is possible to put a limit or to accurately define the void. So then the only question might be can energy ever stand still or is it by its very nature in a continuous state of motion? - And if that be the case then everything in existence is always in motion, and this would include the universe which is existent in an undefinable void.


Energy must hit a resistance in order to cause a manifestation. Otherwise it just goes around in circles. The principle of Form is what harnesses the Force. This is explained in many esoteric teachings.



posted on Dec, 22 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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Energy must hit a resistance in order to cause a manifestation. Otherwise it just goes around in circles. The principle of Form is what harnesses the Force. This is explained in many esoteric teachings.


This contradicts Einstein noted for the theory of rerlativity {E=MC2}, who I will again quote as saying:


“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”

Another words matter is a different form of energy - energy frozen at a lower rate of vibration. This would not necessarily contradict 'esoteric teachings' and could in fact varify some.

Buy my question as to whether the universe is moving still remains unanswered possibly because in the Einstein univrse it is a 'relative' question and in the Quantum Universe the universe could be moving and standing still
- again still a relative question based upon relative possibilities.
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posted on Dec, 24 2013 @ 03:49 AM
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AlienView
We know that the universe is composed of many moving objects such as stars, planets, galaxies, black holes, etc. that continually appear to be in motion. But is the universe itself also moving or is it some sort of frozen and immovable thing? Is the universe itself in a fixed and immovable place?

Reality is motion and rest.

That which is seen/known (the scenery) is moving.
That which is seeing/knowing never moves.

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posted on Dec, 25 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Ummm...Actually I believe that the answer is............both.

The universe is tied to it's start point...however it is also expanding. It moves outward from it's beginning...yet the beginning coordinate remains fixed...somewhere over there in the middle of it all.

YouSir



posted on Dec, 25 2013 @ 03:37 PM
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I doubt that the universe is moving, since all the galaxies are expanding equaly in all directions.

They would probably not do that if Our universe was moving in a specific direction.
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posted on Dec, 25 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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It would seem to me that if the universe is expanding one could say that the expansion implies movement and it therefor it is moving.

As far as any other type of motion, say as to direction, how can you tell for sure if there is any other type of motion to the universe while you are inside of it? Except for expansion and contraction which can be measured from within, how can you measure motion from without?



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 03:40 AM
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Before working out whether the universe is moving - find out if you actually ever move. I know it sounds crazy but check it out for yourself. It seems ridiculous to think that you never move but notice that you may see hands moving, the body moving but 'from where you are seeing' the movement from never moves.

When driving in a car - are you moving? Imagine you are in a car - does the scenery/environment move or are you moving?
When walking down the street - in your experience, is the environment moving or are you moving?

Here is a video which may make you realize that you never move - environments move around you. You are always in the centre of experience.

The video only very briefly speaks about reincarnation - Peter Brown says one must find out what incarnation is before even considering the question of reincarnation. Peter Brown gives you the chance to see reality from a different point of view from the one you have learned and lived with so far.
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posted on Dec, 29 2013 @ 01:47 PM
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If we are not moving and not speaking or writing. What is than moving? How am i answering Your post after You; if time is only now?.

I often hear you say that existstance is only now. But existance can only be moving forward. Because i am answering Your post after you have made Yours.

Present time is only very breef, than it moves on.
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posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 03:55 AM
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spy66
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I often hear you say that existstance is only now. But existance can only be moving forward.

Appearing existence is moving - the appearance is constantly looking different. That which knows that the appearance is moving never moves or appears.

When did you read the post? When did you write the reply? When are you reading this?
Reading, writing, seeing, hearing can only happen presently.

Are eyes and ears ever not present?
You are always present - aren't you?

If you want to see with clarity that you never move please watch and hear Peter Browns video posted - it may change your perspective.



posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 04:03 AM
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One of the main supporting theories behind the big bang theory is that the universe is EXPANDING so it is moving outwards like a balloon being inflated.

Hubble's Law

There are obviously counters to this, for example, I believe it has been observed that galaxies can collide? I think this was a counter-argument I've heard before, anyway, if this is so it makes it difficult to imagine if we are all expanding from a single point.



posted on Dec, 30 2013 @ 04:12 AM
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The universe is the totality of existence.
Existence is made of two aspects - movement and rest.



posted on Dec, 31 2013 @ 01:18 AM
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Itisnowagain
The universe is the totality of existence.
Existence is made of two aspects - movement and rest.

Interesting viewpoint. But a critic might be skeptical and say:

The universe {not understood as to what the universe is} is the totality {what is totality?} of existence {how can you be sure existence exists?}. Existence {again unprovable} is made {how do you know it is made?} of two aspects {maybe it is made of an infinite number of aspects} - movement {depends on how you define what movement is} and rest {exactly what, if anything, is ever at rest?}.

And others might say the universe is only a convenient figure of the imagination and that only the imagination exists.
After all how could you have a real world without an imagination to distinguish it from fantasy?



posted on Dec, 31 2013 @ 01:22 AM
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Itisnowagain
The universe is the totality of existence.
Existence is made of two aspects - movement and rest.

Interesting viewpoint. But a critic might be skeptical and say:

The universe {not understood as to what the universe is} is the totality {what is totality?} of existence {how can you be sure existence exists?}. Existence {again unprovable} is made {how do you know it is made?} of two aspects {maybe it is made of an infinite number of aspects} - movement {depends on how you define what movement is} and rest {exactly what, if anything, is ever at rest?}.

And others might say the universe is only a convenient figure of the imagination and that only the imagination exists.
After all how could you have a real world without an imagination to distinguish it from fantasy?

The seer does not move and the seen/scene does move - they are the totality of existence - the one (universe).



posted on Dec, 31 2013 @ 01:31 AM
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Itisnowagain
The universe is the totality of existence.
Existence is made of two aspects - movement and rest.

Interesting viewpoint. But a critic might be skeptical and say:

The universe {not understood as to what the universe is} is the totality {what is totality?} of existence {how can you be sure existence exists?}. Existence {again unprovable} is made {how do you know it is made?} of two aspects {maybe it is made of an infinite number of aspects} - movement {depends on how you define what movement is} and rest {exactly what, if anything, is ever at rest?}.

And others might say the universe is only a convenient figure of the imagination and that only the imagination exists.
After all how could you have a real world without an imagination to distinguish it from fantasy?

It cannot be proven that this (waking state) is not just a dream - but it does appear to exist.
The dream is right here always - it never goes anywhere but it continually looks different.
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