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Aside from the fact that the connection between the Frankfurt School and "cultural marxism" is a factor in debunked conspiracy theories (Citation), implying that the Mattachine Society, the first really viable "gay rights" organization in the US, is directly related to either is shallow, spurious and utterly misleading.
Most people have either forgotten or are unaware of what it meant to be "openly gay" in 1950s America, i.e. it wasn't possible unless you wanted to be arrested and incarcerated. Any social outlet known to be friendly to homosexuals (like clubs or "gay bars") was regularly and systematically harassed and raided by police and its patrons arrested. Homosexual acts ("sodomy") were illegal in all 50 states, and these laws were used almost exclusively against gay men. Of particular note, these laws were still in place in several states UNTIL 2003. (Citation)Those facts provide a little more context for quotes about the "secrecy" involved in the founding of the Mattachine Society. Being "secret" in organization and activities was a matter of retaining one's freedom in a police state.edit on 26-12-2013 by Gryphon66 because: Gilding the lily.
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This post seems to be playing up that same "victimization" pretty hard.
Yes I see know how it divides.
Americans are sick and tired of people using such guilt techniques to silence them ..put them in a box..they are also becoming disgusted with a media who plays along with this template.
Replace "LGBT" with "Christian," and replace "gay" with "religious" and "straight" with "non-religious." Now read it again.
Replace "LGBT" with "Republican," and replace "gay" with "conservative" and "straight" with "liberal." Now read it again.
You can replace LGBT with "Democrat" or "atheist" or "Quaker" or "Libertarian" or "Librarian" or "intolerant people masquerading as tolerant" and get the same point.
When any group is reduced to second-class citizen status, we all are.
EDIT: To me, I'll say it, GLAAD's position in this made little to no sense. It doesn't help their general cause, IN MY OPINION, to prey upon the bad grammar/construction of Phil's now-famous statement. I don't think they did their constituents any favors in this particular instance but, overall, I guess it makes sense in the long game if "all publicity is good publicity."
Blue Moon Joe,
Culture wars?? Wow!!
That is to me just more fractionating into different camps. It is not leadership..it is divide and conquer. Or put another way, by those familiar with history.
Whenever you get a people or nation to big or difficult to handle from external pressures ..ie..conflict and war...you divide them into camps on any issues you can dream up..and get them to fight themselves. Those who read history can see this pattern occurring over and over in certain situations.
By the mention of the Frankfurt School I am thinking you are also referring to the Mattachine Society and their connection to the Communist Party USA and also the Chicago Political Machine going back a number of years...though they changed form and label so as not to be so recognizable to the public. Is this correct? I ask this because so few have ever heard of either the Frankfurt School or the Mattachine Society. en.wikipedia.org... en.wikipedia.org...
If more people knew they would be deeply disturbed..at both political parties in this country...Republicans and Democrats. For they teach nothing about these origins or histories. As I am often prone to state...people here in America seem to be verily dumbed down and often substitute emotions for real informations and thinking.
There's no reason to demonize GLAAD in this or any other issue.