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How is this then...send back all those who broke the law to get here, haven't paid any price for breaking the law and send all those who benefitted from them breaking the law back also. Do you by chance see the difference? Breaking the law versus following the law? All my family came here legally as did most people's families. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT PROFITING FROM YOUR CRIME! Or don't the laws of this country mean anything to you. Oh...maybe you are a liberal and laws only matter when their result ends up with you getting your way...you know...like Obama. The biggest law breaker in the country.
It's actually pretty easy. We aren't talking about sins of our forefathers here, we are talking about the safety and security of our country today.
...Agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives lost track of many of the weapons. The guns later showed up at nearly 200 of crime scenes in Mexico and 11 in the U.S. Two were recovered at the scene of a U.S. Border Patrol agent's slaying in Arizona in December.
It's one thing to talk lofty notions about Security, Terrorism, Drug Gangs, and all the other preprogrammed FEAR that's being sold to the general public and willingly swallowed, and it's another thing altogether in wasting resources on deporting children and their families that pose no threats to security, are not terrorists, and don't belong to any drug gangs.
Cartel member arrests in Texas:
Major multi-agency investigations have resulted in the arrest of hundreds of Mexican cartel members and associates who operated in Texas. Since 2007, these arrests have included at least 131 from the Gulf Cartel, 9 from the Juarez Cartel, 165 from La Familia Michoacana, 98 from Los Zetas, and 2 from the Sinaloa Cartel.
Cartel related homicides in Texas:
Since 2009, there have been 38 homicides in Texas related to cartel criminal activity. The assessment of whether a crime was related to the Mexican cartels is based upon the best available information from ongoing investigations, confidential informants and intelligence reporting.
Cartel kidnapping, extortion and unlawful restraint in Texas:
Human smugglers regularly kidnap groups of illegal aliens in Texas and hold them against their will in safe houses while demanding ransom payments from their families. In other cases, cartel members and associates have abducted individuals in Texas to force them to align themselves with the cartel.
In the end, it comes down to a thin veil of racism, and US vs THEM, where we get these proclamations of "Send them back where they came from"!
If we're talking about Criminals (not some ambiguously defined interpretation of "criminal"), real criminals that are indeed Terrorists, Drug Dealers/Gangs, etc, then, forget sending them "back" somewhere, where it would seem they just boomarang back again and again, but bury them in accordance with heavy criminal accountability for their actions.
Children and their Families? People that just want to work?
Unless you're Native American, your ancestors were one of these at one time too, and illegal, or no, they're people and should be treated with all due respect and humanity in giving them opportunity for safety, and a place to prosper.
Sending people back "where they came from" solves nothing, as "they" just keep coming back.
Prosecute the criminals, the real criminals, and allow the same kinds of people that made the "American Dream" a reality to begin with once upon a time when America was a beacon of Immigration, to continue to reach for and even realize that "American Dream".
Every day we've these threads about America turning into a Police State, and the very same people complaining about the Police State then turn around and want to close America's Doors, which, would require that whole Police State thing to more adequately enforce against all these unchecked threats of Terrorism, Drug Gangs, and other ambiguously vague 'Security' issues all programmed to the background beat of FEAR within the public social consciousness, all the while, the only people ever profiteering from this are those with stock in the companies supplying all the hardware and "Security" technologies.
So, which one? Police State? or No?
...Yet the U.S. has approved the sale of more guns to Mexico in recent years than ever before through a program called "direct commercial sales." It's a program that some say is worse than the highly-criticized "Fast and Furious" gunrunning scandal, where U.S. agents allowed thousands of weapons to pass from the U.S. to Mexican drug cartels.
Here's how it works: A foreign government fills out an application to buy weapons from private gun manufacturers in the U.S. Then the State Department decides whether to approve.
I have native heritage myself. And have to say that while the philosophical side of what you say has merit, in reality it is just dumb. We are in a whole different world than 200 years ago. Just think about it.
reply to post by deadcatsrule
No, it just means they're selfish. If they leave their kids behind to immigrate illegally and hope to raise the child as an illegal too sometime down the road - What do you call that?
If you're in the U.S. (or any country for that matter) illegally and have a child knowing that your future is uncertain and that you're not in the position to care for a child and provide them with stability - What do you call that?
I call it selfish. But you are right, however the way to solve the problem is to deport the parents. Not break more laws.