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reply to post by racasan
I should have said mo posed as his god’s mouthpiece
Yes, if I'm not mistaken, all of the 'prophets' thought they were speaking "for God."
Jesus is the one that is the conundrum - did he say he was "God" or not?
I don't think so - based on my interpretation of scripture. I just see way too many 'Eastern' philosophical stuff in his recorded teachings - and he said his followers could all 'do what he has done, and more.'
To me, that says: We are all part of the Divine, and these 'powers' that I have are accessible to everyone who will take the time and make the effort to understand what I am talking about, if you are capable.'
And some were, clearly, not capable, which the Gospel of Thomas shores up. It is true that some people are simply not 'built' in a way to grasp esoteric, philosophical meanings. Therefore, the 'vulgate' is used by those incapable of seeing the 'hidden message.'
That is precisely the point of doubting the English-language Bible versions (all 5 bejillion of them)....
there is almost always Much Lost In Translation, and the translator's view will always influence the edition they produce.
Actually, pole shift is a very well documented phenomena. While it is generally understood to take thousands of years, there is even evidence for faster pole shift (such as change in orientation of the metals in the earth). The sun has risen in the west (and probably the north and south as well as the east) several times since the beginnings of earth, possibly even during the course of human history (although probably not recorded human history).
All of the translators start from the same point, the same language, and flavor the concoction to their own liking. In order to get back to the original meanings, one has to blend all those different flavors together until sense comes out.
My conclusion is that he claimed not to "be" God, but to be of one mind with God, or something of that nature. he claimed the authority to speak for God (among other privileges of position), rather than claiming godship himself.
1 Dhul-Qarnain was at a very specific place -the setting place of the sun
2 He found the sun setting in a spring (a small area of water)
3 Dhul-Qarnain found people near to the spring