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I am going to be blunt at the risk of being offensive.
I’m afraid the best we can do now is require tight and relentless oversight of these operations.
A whistle blower could be just another crook who steals secrets to sell to the enemy for profit.
Again it's too early to say anything definite other than he did something that , like anyone with a clearance, if caught he would be fined and serve possible jail time for. Maybe he turns out to be the greatest hero ever, maybe he turns out to be an Operative for another agency and maybe he turns out that this was all for his personal gain. It's too early to say any of that definitively.
It's amazing to me how many people in this thread seem to be ignoring the same thing I have said all along.
I agree that the only option is revolution, its been in the cards for too long but my view is that it will occur when things are mostly unfixable and at a tremendous human cost (among others) and the result will probably be worst that what we started (before it became extremely corrupt). Worst because the situation of demographics, ecology and geopolitics, it is clear that the new tendency is to aim to a more Asian view of human worth (that translates to lower significance and less power to the individual across the board), this is mostly unfixable because of out competitive existence.
Why would this subject, of everything discussed on ATS, be one ATS members should be careful with or not comment on?
Personally, I don’t care what anyone else thinks (you see, I’m just as hardened in my view as the rest of you are), but I’m willing to surrender some of my so-called freedoms if it means that we’re less likely to have another 9/11, or much worse, repeated on American soil. Actually, I use the Internet a LOT, but I’m not paranoid about whether or not Big Brother is peering over my shoulder as I make this post. And if he is, so what! Frankly, I doubt anyone at the NSA has the time to sit around playing voyeur with the kind of volume they’re required to review/process each day. And if anyone does do this, they should be dealt with appropriately. Christ, people don’t seem to mind spilling their guts on Facebook and Twitter, letting the entire world have access to their personal lives. But, Heaven forbid should the NSA get ahold of any of their “private” coorespondence. That’s simply unAmerican and unacceptable.
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So tell me, then, what's your solution? Disband all the intelligence agencies? Maybe the entire government? Get real. That ain't gonna happen.
And if they did severely restrict NSA surveillance activities, and protect all those so-private Facebook and Twitter exchanges, etc,, and then we were hit by another 9/11 scale terrorist attack, what would your reaction to that be? I'll bet you'd be all over the security agencies for being inept and incompetent in their jobs.
I won't change your mind about all this anyway, and I'm not going to try. You have your opinion - I have mine. Deal with it...