How do I know if it's Chemtrails or not? Pictures from my neighborhood today.

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posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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So what you're saying is that they've been spraying us since 1915? The first contrail was seen to spread out into a lingering trail in 1915, and they were seen again from 1918 onward. So this spraying operation has been going on a really long time, with no apparent results.




posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:00 AM
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jjkenobi
You can tell if they are chemtrails if they turn into long hazy clouds that expland, last all day, and block out the sun. If it's just a long straight contrail that eventually dissipates it's nothing.


Wouldn't that just make them...clouds?

Or another way of asking you...What do you call it when clouds form and spread out to cover the sky and block the sun all day?



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:01 AM
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jjkenobi
You can tell if they are chemtrails if they turn into long hazy clouds that expland, last all day, and block out the sun. If it's just a long straight contrail that eventually dissipates it's nothing.


Think about this: If it was some chemical trail being left by a plane, what would happen to the density of the trail as it spread? What would that look like?



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:02 AM
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Honestly, I have not, but it is something that I should be aware of



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:02 AM
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Lifesclan
I know that anecdotes aren't enough to be considered evidence but I will present you all with a short experience of mine.
I was in my car, outside of a mall's parking lot. I spot for the first time one of those planes with the lingering trails. Long story short, as it approaches me I am able to identify that it is indeed a plane, and, surprise surprise, headed toward the sun. Now at this time I stick my head out the window to get a better look at it and upon doing this the outside air rushes into the car. Once that had occurred I got a mild headache and a metallic taste in my mouth. This metal taste is on par with the zopiclone that had been prescribed to me years back as a sleep aid, I would wake up with a disgusting metal taste in my mouth.
/story
Take from it what you will


1. It was only heading for the sun from your perspective. Not from the guy sat 20 miles down the road.

2. How long do you think it would take something sprayed at 35000ft to fall to ground level and would it fall straight down?



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:03 AM
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mrthumpy

Lifesclan
I know that anecdotes aren't enough to be considered evidence but I will present you all with a short experience of mine.
I was in my car, outside of a mall's parking lot. I spot for the first time one of those planes with the lingering trails. Long story short, as it approaches me I am able to identify that it is indeed a plane, and, surprise surprise, headed toward the sun. Now at this time I stick my head out the window to get a better look at it and upon doing this the outside air rushes into the car. Once that had occurred I got a mild headache and a metallic taste in my mouth. This metal taste is on par with the zopiclone that had been prescribed to me years back as a sleep aid, I would wake up with a disgusting metal taste in my mouth.
/story
Take from it what you will


1. It was only heading for the sun from your perspective. Not from the guy sat 20 miles down the road.

2. How long do you think it would take something sprayed at 35000ft to fall to ground level and would it fall straight down?

It wasn't even the highest plane I'd seen doing it



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:03 AM
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Lifesclan
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Honestly, I have not, but it is something that I should be aware of


Yes you really should before you decide that they're not contrails



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:04 AM
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mrthumpy

jjkenobi
You can tell if they are chemtrails if they turn into long hazy clouds that expland, last all day, and block out the sun. If it's just a long straight contrail that eventually dissipates it's nothing.


Think about this: If it was some chemical trail being left by a plane, what would happen to the density of the trail as it spread? What would that look like?

Like my pictures that include the sun



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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What program did you use to tell their altitude? Because you can't just eyeball their altitude.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:06 AM
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Lifesclan

mrthumpy

jjkenobi
You can tell if they are chemtrails if they turn into long hazy clouds that expland, last all day, and block out the sun. If it's just a long straight contrail that eventually dissipates it's nothing.


Think about this: If it was some chemical trail being left by a plane, what would happen to the density of the trail as it spread? What would that look like?

Like my pictures that include the sun


Think about it. For example: If you took a bag of flour and laid a trail on the floor and then spread it out wider and wider would it still be as dense as the original trail?
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posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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And if they truly are contrails then why do they always cover the sun and form larger 'cloud' cover?


Is this the reason you believe these are not contrails?



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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So a plane flying at 30,000 feet over your head managed to drop invisible metallic tasting chemicals down to the ground and into your car?

It couldn't have been the exhaust from your own car, or the possible dozens around you now could it?

No, it was from a plane with a trail coming out the back of it!

Please, if you're going to discuss this subject, please keep it out of the realms of imagination land.
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posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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Zaphod58
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What program did you use to tell their altitude? Because you can't just eyeball their altitude.

The altitude definitely can't be eyeballed, as I said in an earlier post it wasn't that high compared to the other planes I have seen involved with this activity



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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It is time for me to be going. I will check this thread in my spare time to see if anyone has left something for me and I shall reply. Other than that I have given out the information I wanted to and it is up to everyone to interpret it how they will, as with any other information.
Peace and love to you all



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:11 AM
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Now at this time I stick my head out the window to get a better look at it and upon doing this the outside air rushes into the car. Once that had occurred I got a mild headache and a metallic taste in my mouth. This metal taste is on par with the zopiclone that had been prescribed to me years back as a sleep aid, I would wake up with a disgusting metal taste in my mouth. /story Take from it what you will



Are you saying the trail you seen in the sky that you opened your window to get a better look gave you this effect?



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:13 AM
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But without using some kind of program how can you tell? I've seen planes that looked like they were flying side by side that when verified were over 10,000 feet apart vertically.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:28 AM
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I think it's nice that you want to be involved. But be it government site, or text book, please, at least look into the published information that describes contrails and explains their existence. If after you become informed of what contrails are, how they form, and how long they can last, you still believe you can determine a chemtrail from a contrail by sight alone, then at least you can know you weren't just lazy.

Blindly following a conspiracy because it sounds right is not a good way to learn. Understanding all the angles of the conspiracy will allow you to make an informed decision and those who read your posts will respect you for showing that you did the leg work.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 09:35 AM
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I want to thank you all for the replies. Like I stated in my initial OP, I have very little to no understanding on Chemtrails (to whether they even exist at all too). When I went outside yesterday I was seeing these strange (seemed to be unusual) lines across the sky, I brought the pics here to get input from others and hopefully an explanation of contrail vs chemtrail...

From 3 pages now, it seems that there are many who don't believe in chemtrails at all, which leaves it being contrails and only contrails. We have others who are more open-minded to the idea but seem to agree that there's just no conclusive proof. And last we have people who are 100% sure the Govt. is doing chemtrail sprays in different parts of the country... With little knowledge on the subject I won't fall on either end of being definitive with a stance, but I know how our Govt. works and I know how shady/agenda driven they are, so I believe its VERY conceivable that they could be spraying chemtrails. I just believe the evidence isn't there, yet...

Thanks again for the replies



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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If you are truly interested in the topic, please educate yourself about BOTH sides. Understand the science that explains contrails and how weather affects them as well as the chemtrail doom porn. Then you can make intelligent debate. That's something that is severely lacking in this forum.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 10:23 AM
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PLAYERONE01
honestly bro you are posting on the wrong site for any kind of open minded feedback on this topic.


I feel that using critical thinking, logic, and scientific knowledge to discuss the phenomenon of trails left by high-altitude planes is quite open-minded.

To be close minded would mean ignoring the scientific knowledge on the subject and critical thinking, and just blindly accepting claims made on he internet.





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