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FlyersFan
By way of background, the government is spying on virtually everything we do. All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.
beezzer
reply to post by FlyersFan
How do we get rid of the police-state?
How do we return to a society based on individualism, personal responsibility, liberty, freedom?
benrl
reply to post by stirling
Which is why Gandhi like persistence is needed.
Don't give them a reason, so that when they do the abuse is obvious.
Passive resistance, peaceful protest, use the system in place as best you can.
Let them make the first move not the other way around.
Use peaceful avenues for change while they still exist...
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[1]
beezzer
reply to post by FlyersFan
How do we get rid of the police-state?
How do we return to a society based on individualism, personal responsibility, liberty, freedom?
darkbake
I'm a pacifist as well. What DarthFazer says is more than likely going to happen down the road if you look at the situation. When there is a corrupt ruling faction that will not let go of its iron grip on totalitarian control mechanisms, what will probably happen is our country is going to get worse to the point where many more lines are going to be crossed.
The reason I say this, is because the representatives and the people in charge are not holding anyone accountable, in fact, they are calling people like Snowden and Assange, who are holding people accountable, traitors - the ruling elite are so far off from reality there is no chance in hell that they are going to turn anything around as leaders.
Once many more lines are crossed in the police state we are in and continue to be in, and there are no Democratic avenues to change that, yes, there probably will be a violent revolution. What other ways could there be?
A lot of lines have been crossed already, including:
1. The warrentless roving wiretapping mentioned in this thread
A. That very clearly violates the fourth amendment on many different levels, actually.
stirling
It would be a revelation to every citizen as to just what the "government" thinks of them.......especially when the efficiency of the high tech warfighting tools they possess is demonstrated......
In case you haven't noticed...the MIComplex has developed many answers to policing a country which is hostile to their
occupation......
The people would be slaughtered wholesale.....or disarmed without firing a shot using microwave technology.....
Are you ready for the robots and drones that are ready to be unleashed on us?
Coming to YOUR neighbourhood soon.......
DARPA has been veryyy busy preparing for such an uprising.......as has NSA.....