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The Next Two Years. Predictions of What might come.

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posted on Dec, 17 2013 @ 10:36 PM
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I have been on here many times and mentioned that I believe that the rapture must occur no later than 2021. Why?




Some people ask how Israel’s re-birth could be the sign that starts the clock running on the end times when there’s no mention of it in Matt. 24. It’s true, in the Olivet Discourse the Lord never came right out and said Israel would cease to exist and then be re-born 2,000 years later. But there are clear prophecies of just such a thing in the Old Testament. For example Moses warned the people at least twice of the terrible things that would happen if they rejected the Lord. In Deut. 4:25-27 he said their disobedience would cause the Lord to scatter them among the nations. Then in Deut 4:30 He said that in the latter days during a time of tribulation they would return to the Lord and obey Him again. And starting in Deut. 28:15 Moses listed the disasters that would come upon them, culminating in verses 63 and 64 when he said they would be up rooted from the land and scattered among the nations, from one end of the Earth to the other. And once again, he said, even if they had been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, the Lord would bring them back (Deut. 30:4), and if they agreed to obey His covenant again He would make them prosperous, and then He would circumcise their hearts (see Romans 2:28-29), put their enemies to flight, and delight in them again. Deut 30:1-10 is a clear summary of End Times events. They’ll be brought back into the land, their enemies will be cursed and their covenant will be restored (Ezekiel 38-39), their hearts will be circumcised (Zechariah 12:10), and their prosperity will be restored (Isaiah 65:17-25). This sequence of events is coming to pass today, just as Moses said it would.





the Lord had Ezekiel say,

” But you, O mountains of Israel, will produce branches and fruit for my people Israel, for they will soon come home. I am concerned for you and will look on you with favor; you will be plowed and sown, and I will multiply the number of people upon you, even the whole house of Israel. The towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt. I will increase the number of men and animals upon you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the LORD. I will cause people, my people Israel, to walk upon you. They will possess you, and you will be their inheritance; you will never again deprive them of their children.” (Ezekiel 36:8-13)

While this was partially fulfilled after the Babylonian captivity, the people were driven off the land again in the first century AD, so the complete fulfillment had to begin sometime after that. Earlier, Isaiah had prophesied that there would be a second return, and his contemporary Amos said that after that one they would never be uprooted again. So that’s the one we’re looking for.

In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. (Isaiah 11:11)

I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the LORD your God. (Amos 9:14-15)

According to history the second fulfillment officially began in 1948.

“This generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened” (Matt. 24:34).




Why the rebirth of israel is a sign of the end times.


If you wish to read the rest of that gentleman's commentary you may go to the link, I have tried to quote the main points. Now Psalm 90:10 refers to the average lifespan of a human as 70-80 years. If we use 1948 as the start of a 70-80(making 2028 the latest possible date for the second coming) year period of time counting down to the second coming. This dates the rapture literally any day now, but at the latest possible date I believe it would be 2021. That being said I am sure many of us have heard of what is occurring in 2014-2015. There are four coming blood moons on two of the lords feast days the same feast days in each year. Not only that there are two solar eclipses in 2015. 2015 is the last year in the 49 year sabbatical cycles. It is just a big year for the Jews. I believe you should see them get their temple back close to the end of the two years meaning the Abomination of Desolation is just right around the corner. I also believe you might see the fulfillment of Isaiah 17 and psalm 83. The battle of Ezekiel 38 will probably follow after those two. Just some guesses. There are many good theories, but most of the ones I have found with the most scripture behind them they all fall before 2021. I plan to do another one soon.




posted on Dec, 17 2013 @ 10:42 PM
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The huge flaw in the position that the establishment of Zionist-occupied Palestine is the rebirth of Israel, is that nearly all of the Jews coming in are of Khazar stock, and therefore Japhethic, not Shemitic. The re-gathering of Israel (twelve tribes, remember, not just one) has yet to happen.

Really, the Zionists should have called their country "Judah." The name "Israel" should clue in any person of normal intelligence that a con game was afoot. Non-white Jews are not especially welcome, as I have read right here on ATS, and I don't think non-Jewish Israelites are welcome at all.

I don't mean to push the envelop of the T&C, but "Israel" is a secular state, and therefore must take criticism for its misdeeds like any other secular state.
edit on 17-12-2013 by Lazarus Short because: lah-de-dah



posted on Dec, 18 2013 @ 12:38 AM
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I lived in Israel as a non Jew for 10 years

Never once did I feel unwelcome, quite the opposite. I was always welcomed wherever I went (including the territories) as long as I was not in uniform.

My adopted sister married a black Jew and I am now a very proud uncle.

It seems you have been misinformed.

As for predicting the rapture, if you believe in it


Predictions[edit]

Some notable predictions of the date of the rapture include the following:
1844: William Miller predicted that Christ would return between March 21, 1843 and March 21, 1844, then revised his prediction, claiming to have miscalculated Scripture, to October 22, 1844. The realization that the predictions were incorrect resulted in a Great Disappointment. Miller's theology gave rise to the Advent movement. The Baha'is believe that Christ did return as Miller predicted in 1844, with the advent of the Báb, and numerous Miller-like prophetic predictions from many religions are given in William Sears' book, Thief in The Night.[71]
1914,[72] 1918,[73] and 1925:[74] Various dates predicted for the rapture by the Jehovah's Witnesses.
1981: Chuck Smith predicted that Jesus would probably return by 1981.[75]
1988: Publication of 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Is in 1988, by Edgar C. Whisenant.
1989: Publication of The Final Shout: Rapture Report 1989, by Edgar Whisenant. This author made further predictions of the rapture for 1992, 1995, and other years.
1992: A Korean group, the Mission for the Coming Days, predicted that the rapture would occur on October 28, 1992.[76]
1993: Multiple predictions were given for 1993, seven years before the year 2000; the rapture would have to start to allow for seven years of the tribulation before the return in 2000.
1994: Pastor John Hinkle of Christ Church in Los Angeles predicted that the rapture would occur on June 9, 1994. Radio evangelist Harold Camping predicted September 6, 1994.[77]
2011: Harold Camping's revised prediction had May 21, 2011 as the date of the rapture.[78][79] After this prediction proved inaccurate, he claimed that a non-visible "spiritual judgement" had taken place, and that the physical rapture would occur on October 21, 2011. The physical rapture prediction also proved inaccurate.[80]


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posted on Dec, 18 2013 @ 07:16 AM
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I think a fun thing to do is on the next predicted rapture date. leave a pile of clothes, shoes, socks, pants, shirt and glasses if you wear them on the floor.

When your family wakes up and sees this they will be shocked and dismayed thinking they got left behind!

Than you can jump out from your hiding place and exclaim...... SURPRISE!!!!

And everyone will have a good laugh



edit on 18-12-2013 by grubblesnert because: huh?



posted on Dec, 18 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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I don't know what is worse honestly;

That there are people who have so horribly misunderstood the Bible that they believe in the popular conception of 'rapture',

or those who are looking forward to it and waiting for it.

I got some bad news for these people. If they want this world to get better; they need to get off their butts and get out there and make a difference .. No one is ever going to come and show you an evil way.

And honestly; I would love to see something like Jesus turn up on Earth; coming on the clouds; and when he gets here and people are like 'THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE!', he looks around and goes; "Couldn't you guys have started fixing up the place without me?"



posted on Dec, 18 2013 @ 11:10 PM
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HigherTruth
I don't know what is worse honestly;

That there are people who have so horribly misunderstood the Bible that they believe in the popular conception of 'rapture',

or those who are looking forward to it and waiting for it.


Right! And after you really think about it and learn how many other texts, Gospels, Gnostic writings that were left out of "The Bible". How can you believe a document to be 'God's Words/Inspired' when they describe Adam as living for over 900 years of age, or poor Moses who after doing what God asked: "Lead his children to the Promised Land" and then after 40 years, Moses gets all these people there, and then God tells Moses, umm, no you can't go there because you hit the rock the wrong way to produce water for the people?

Basically, I am just calling all this 'Rapture' stuff a nice fun, scary story for the times back then, 2000 years ago, but it's time, people have come and gone. I certainly do not see The Dome of The Rock, on the Temple Mount falling into the hands of the Jews in the next 2 - 10 years.....just another fake prediction so the new 2012 is 2021.....oh boy.....Don't we have better things to do and worry about?

Peace



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 01:25 AM
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HigherTruth
I don't know what is worse honestly;

That there are people who have so horribly misunderstood the Bible that they believe in the popular conception of 'rapture',

or those who are looking forward to it and waiting for it.

I got some bad news for these people. If they want this world to get better; they need to get off their butts and get out there and make a difference .. No one is ever going to come and show you an evil way.

And honestly; I would love to see something like Jesus turn up on Earth; coming on the clouds; and when he gets here and people are like 'THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE!', he looks around and goes; "Couldn't you guys have started fixing up the place without me?"


Misunderstood the Bible?

Ok,

Using Scripture please explain to me how the concept of the Rapture is not Biblical.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 01:59 AM
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ItDepends

HigherTruth
I don't know what is worse honestly;

That there are people who have so horribly misunderstood the Bible that they believe in the popular conception of 'rapture',

or those who are looking forward to it and waiting for it.


Right! And after you really think about it and learn how many other texts, Gospels, Gnostic writings that were left out of "The Bible". How can you believe a document to be 'God's Words/Inspired' when they describe Adam as living for over 900 years of age, or poor Moses who after doing what God asked: "Lead his children to the Promised Land" and then after 40 years, Moses gets all these people there, and then God tells Moses, umm, no you can't go there because you hit the rock the wrong way to produce water for the people?

Basically, I am just calling all this 'Rapture' stuff a nice fun, scary story for the times back then, 2000 years ago, but it's time, people have come and gone. I certainly do not see The Dome of The Rock, on the Temple Mount falling into the hands of the Jews in the next 2 - 10 years.....just another fake prediction so the new 2012 is 2021.....oh boy.....Don't we have better things to do and worry about?

Peace


2012 was based on the Mayan calendar. I have no idea why people figured they would associate it with Scripture.

Water vapor canopy theory

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

When God first re-structured the earth the Bible speaks of a vault of water around the outer layer of the atmosphere. There was also more oxygen available in the world at this time. These two factors could account for the longer lifespans.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 02:01 AM
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grubblesnert
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
 

I think a fun thing to do is on the next predicted rapture date. leave a pile of clothes, shoes, socks, pants, shirt and glasses if you wear them on the floor.

When your family wakes up and sees this they will be shocked and dismayed thinking they got left behind!

Than you can jump out from your hiding place and exclaim...... SURPRISE!!!!

And everyone will have a good laugh



edit on 18-12-2013 by grubblesnert because: huh?


Lol, that would be hilarious.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 03:12 AM
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I'd highly avoid getting locked into a timeframe. I know someone who did that. Caused a lot of damage as a result, because the people she was influencing believed her. then when it didn't happen they realized she had made a big mistake. People had put there lives on hold because they believed her prediction. The bible says "we don't know the day or the hour". But it's good that you are aware of what could happen.

I believe that they'll blame it on aliens and use it as a means to institue the NWO on a massive scale.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 04:02 AM
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spartacus699
I'd highly avoid getting locked into a timeframe. I know someone who did that. Caused a lot of damage as a result, because the people she was influencing believed her. then when it didn't happen they realized she had made a big mistake. People had put there lives on hold because they believed her prediction. The bible says "we don't know the day or the hour". But it's good that you are aware of what could happen.

I believe that they'll blame it on aliens and use it as a means to institue the NWO on a massive scale.


That would make a lot of sense. I also believe the NWO will use the Rapture as an opportunity to speed up their agenda of Global domination, but lets not forget who the leader will be.

I understand your worry. However I did state that they are only my predictions, and not to be taken as prophecy. The only reason I put the time frame out there is because I believe that it is absolutely correct. The bible said we would not know a day or hour, but it also says that christians will not be suprised by the Rapture. Many scholars, believe that the Rapture will occur on Rosh Hashanah a two day holiday(based on 1 cor 15:52), so the closest thing you could get to would be predicting the rapture would be a two day time frame as it could occur any point in time during Rosh. Please note a time frame is not a day or hour and no where in the Bible does it say a time frame is not given.



Another thing is the Bible says Christians should not be surprised by the rapture.

1 thes

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

It also mentions the Lord bestowing a crown to all of those who long for his appearing.

2 Timothy
8 Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

I would like to say that you are right though, and I must admit it is hard for me to motivate myself in matters that don't pertain to spreading the Word, such as school and work.

I am not blindly putting a date on this, but rather adding the information from many end times studies to create a solid picture of the events that lead up to the tribulation.

Just a bit of interesting information, in 2017 the astronomical signs mentioned in revelation that show up three and a half years into the tribulation appear in the sky with Jupiter(the King Planet) being directly between the legs of the constellation, the Virgin. The video below goes a bit more in depth, and he actually dates the rapture sometime within 2014, and does a pretty good job of defending it.




posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 08:08 AM
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Why the rebirth of israel is a sign of the end times.


Well, I'd say that its a kind of a sign. Much like how the false Christ appears before the real one, it appears that a false Israel has appeared before the righteous kingdom.

The reality is that Israel is around 30% atheist. Israel is also a hub for gay tourism, with gay pride parades being held even in Jerusalem... the very land that Jesus and the prophets walked on! Israel also has one of the highest rates of prostitution in the world with its sex trade raking in 2 billion a year. Further, Israel is also known to mock and insult the central figure of Christianity, Jesus on national TV.

So with all of its open debauchery, homosexuality, prostitution and anti-Christianity, Israel CANNOT be the prophesied holy Biblical kingdom, as fantasized by many Christians.... but rather it is an unholy abomination, literally an anti-Christian state.



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 12:02 PM
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sk0rpi0n

Why the rebirth of israel is a sign of the end times.


Well, I'd say that its a kind of a sign. Much like how the false Christ appears before the real one, it appears that a false Israel has appeared before the righteous kingdom.

The reality is that Israel is around 30% atheist. Israel is also a hub for gay tourism, with gay pride parades being held even in Jerusalem... the very land that Jesus and the prophets walked on! Israel also has one of the highest rates of prostitution in the world with its sex trade raking in 2 billion a year. Further, Israel is also known to mock and insult the central figure of Christianity, Jesus on national TV.

So with all of its open debauchery, homosexuality, prostitution and anti-Christianity, Israel CANNOT be the prophesied holy Biblical kingdom, as fantasized by many Christians.... but rather it is an unholy abomination, literally an anti-Christian state.


Wow, that is amazing. I had no idea this was actually happening. Basically what you are saying is that nothing has changed in over 2,000 years. Same stuff was happening then too.

Not that Islam is any better, their prophet was just a camel driver until he met a rich widow that was 15 years older then him. He took advantage of her wealth and during his years of marriage, history shows he did nothing of humbleness. Then about 5 years into his marriage he couldn't stand being married, but didn't want to give up his wealth, he snuck out regularly visiting a cave in Mount Hira, on the outskirts of Mecca. In a drunken stupor, he fell and knocked himself out. When he awoke, he thought he might be a little crazy, but indicated that an angel had visited him (he had to come up with a good story to tell his wealthy wife, Khadija who began to despise his sloth and drunkenness. She died under mysterious conditions, leaving the weath to him.

So, if you believe both stories as fact, then I really feel sorry for all of you. Allah is a fake and just a comic figure made up by a drunken guy, who married a rich widow and took advantage of the situation. As far as Israel is concerned, it that is supposed to represent God's promised land, then how come so much hate and war is perpetuated there? They deprive their neighbors of medical help, food, and continue to kill innocent people........Is this ALL in the name of God? Umm, don't think so. The Old testament was written by a bunch of scared old men who brutalized their women, just like the muslims do and after thousands of years....nothing has changed, just gotten worse......and you think God had his only Son murdered to save all of these animals? Umm, don't think so. Oh yeah and the world is on 6,000 years old, people lived to be hundreds of years old and some guy built a boat and saved two of every species in the world from a massive flood.

It's all a fairytale! Wake up and live your lives and do something good for your fellow man and stop calling each other names and using a comic book as the basis of your righteousness!!! Merry Christmas

edit on 19-12-2013 by ItDepends because: sentence structure



posted on Dec, 19 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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Well said! I'll add that Zionist-Occupied Palestine is a hub for pornography and the human body-parts trade.



posted on Dec, 20 2013 @ 02:19 AM
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sk0rpi0n

Why the rebirth of israel is a sign of the end times.


Well, I'd say that its a kind of a sign. Much like how the false Christ appears before the real one, it appears that a false Israel has appeared before the righteous kingdom.

The reality is that Israel is around 30% atheist. Israel is also a hub for gay tourism, with gay pride parades being held even in Jerusalem... the very land that Jesus and the prophets walked on! Israel also has one of the highest rates of prostitution in the world with its sex trade raking in 2 billion a year. Further, Israel is also known to mock and insult the central figure of Christianity, Jesus on national TV.

So with all of its open debauchery, homosexuality, prostitution and anti-Christianity, Israel CANNOT be the prophesied holy Biblical kingdom, as fantasized by many Christians.... but rather it is an unholy abomination, literally an anti-Christian state.



The reality is that the Jews did not accept Jesus(if you read the Bible you will see that is why we are still on Earth instead of kicking it in heaven) and this is what resulted in the gentiles inheriting the kingdom of god bringing us into the age of grace. We can accept the pardon God gives us(his sacrifice), and be saved from what we deserve. This time is coming to an end shortly friend I can feel it deep within my soul, the Messiah is near.

You mock me for calling Israel a sign, but did you even go to the site read what was said, and see if it made sense with the rest of Scripture? I highly doubt it.



posted on Dec, 20 2013 @ 02:22 AM
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Lazarus Short
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Well said! I'll add that Zionist-Occupied Palestine is a hub for pornography and the human body-parts trade.


I would say everywhere on earth is a hub for pornography, please give me references guys not just speculation.



posted on Dec, 20 2013 @ 05:49 AM
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You mock me for calling Israel a sign,

No, I said Israel (the modern state) is a "kind" of a sign, being a decadent anti-christian state that was established right in the holy land where the prophets and Jesus walked. Christians claim to love Jesus, yet are infatuated with a country and people that hate Jesus.

In case you think Israel is somehow special to God, read your Bible again. God says to the Israelites :
the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers - Leviticus 25:23b

The Israelites were kicked off that land for their sins. But in 1948, their descendants(?) snuck back into the land through the backdoor of godless politics.



did you even go to the site read what was said, and see if it made sense with the rest of Scripture?

As for your link, I didn't read it as I am quite familiar with Christians pro-Israel theology.
And NO, it cannot be in line with the rest of scripture because the Bible says the Israel that is to return is to be a holy state... NOT a decadent anti-Christian nation running gay parades and brothels.



posted on Dec, 20 2013 @ 08:21 AM
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ServantOfTheLamb

Lazarus Short
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Well said! I'll add that Zionist-Occupied Palestine is a hub for pornography and the human body-parts trade.


I would say everywhere on earth is a hub for pornography, please give me references guys not just speculation.


Easy: www.realjewnews.com... Just to start. Kapner is Jewish by birth, and his site is a great resource for getting away from the Zionist idol.



posted on Dec, 20 2013 @ 11:51 AM
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nevermind
edit on 20-12-2013 by ItDepends because: change of heart



posted on Dec, 21 2013 @ 01:38 AM
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"As for your link, I didn't read it as I am quite familiar with Christians pro-Israel theology.
And NO, it cannot be in line with the rest of scripture because the Bible says the Israel that is to return is to be a holy state... NOT a decadent anti-Christian nation running gay parades and brothels."

Why do you enter a debate if you aren't even going to be open to new information. If you would go to the source you would see that it is incredibly accurate with the rest of Scripture.

America has gay prarades, and some strip clubs are basically brothels? What is your point...The world in doused in sin...



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