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Pope Francis is TIME Magazine's Person of the Year for doing nothing at all

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posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 08:01 AM
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He's only held the post for a little over half a year, and I have hopes that the road he seems to be traveling will pass some interesting sites and add to the face lift he seems to want to give the catholic church. Time will tell (oh wait, it just did!)




posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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Sometimes before you can actually take action, you have to establish the appropriate mentality. Attitude is half the battle. Honestly, I'd love to know what you guys are doing that's so much more helpful than the pope. At least he's reaching people. What's so effective about what you're doing? Yeah keep criticizing on a bloody conspiracy forum. That's funny.
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posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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So far I really like the new Pope and I come from a position of being really skeptical about established religion. But one of the reasons I became so skeptical of established religion is the naked hypocrisy so many leaders of various religions display. I have been and am especially critical of Christian leadership because I grew up Christian and as I got older the more and more unChrist like (even evil) the religion seemed to be, it's history, it's leaders... the ones that dominate the national and global stage, I just couldn't reconcile the being I knew as Jesus with the words and actions of those who claim to be his voice.

So far, Pope Francis is a man I can identify as a true Christian. Knowing nothing about him when he was selected, when I watched him come out onto the balcony so humble, I was affected emotionally. I'm not really sure why. His words since then have been a breath of fresh air and a beacon of hope since he has influence over billions of people. I think it's been too soon to see much action behind the words but the words alone are a powerful considering his sphere of influence. I think Time made a good choice.
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posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 09:25 AM
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I can like him yet still be critical of him though he has said some really nice things he hasn't really done anything.


Look at it this way, at least it is only Time magazine and not a Nobel Peace Prize in which Obama received for absolutely nothing.



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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Don't be silly, he HAS done something! For one thing he's annoyed the hell out of Sarah Palin.



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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I think you are wrong, the Pope had actually done something. He stepped on the toes of those connected with the church who used their rank for personal gain. He also rejected luxury and strongly accussed the corruption.

1. Two archbishops in Slovenia had to go when the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Maribor made a debt of 800 mil € with bad investments. This problem goes back to 2007, but nothing happened until Francis.
www.catholicherald.co.uk...

2. German bishop was suspended by Francis when he spent 31 mil € for rebuilding his Archdiocese.
www.spiegel.de...

3. A special decree /(which already became) law against corruption and money laundering...
goldenageofgaia.com...

4. He is setting an example of modesty, no luxury cars, no special appartments. He also objected him getting a statue in Buenos Aires.
www.realclearpolitics.com...
edition.cnn.com...

There are much more things he had done in this short time. In fact he has done so much that he got first mob threaths.
www.religionnews.com...

So these reasons alone are enough for being the person of the year. He is finally an example of a person in power that is actually for the people. Things are being done and done quite fast if you ask me. And not many other people in power like that.



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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He has changed the course of the Catholic Church .. membership of 1 billion people ... into a more
positive direction. He has opened better dialog and is cleaning house. It's HUGE.

Snowden. Putin. Pope Francis. All three deserved the 'Man of the Year' cover.



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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It is all a sign of the times we live in. Just like Obama was awarded the Nobel prize. It is as if the inner crowd are doing eachother favours. A gesture of recognition, for having agreed upon working the current NWO agenda. They must be thinking ..

" Welcome to our "elite" club. We know the "outsiders" do not understand why we give you this reward and frankly we do not care "they" do not understand. What can these sheep ever do about it...afterall, it is our money/reward/award to give away anyways..."


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posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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AngryCymraeg
Don't be silly, he HAS done something! For one thing he's annoyed the hell out of Sarah Palin.


Hah, totally! When Rush Limbaugh came out in a panic to berate the pope, I thought "Well if Rush hates him, he must be doing something right".

As far as him deserving man of the year, it can be argued that none of the people who get selected are the best people to choose. The pope is making waves with a huge demographic he has influence over and it's coming at a time when it's needed on a critical level.

All of the things the article is complaining about him not doing are only things I'll be upset about if a year or two go by without any active change in those areas. Right now, he's doing amazing things by being what a pope is supposed to be; a counselor and guide for his flock.



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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Also considering the new direction he has sent over a billion Catholics in I would say calling that nothing is kind of silly.


Yeah, he's trying to send 1 billion Catholics into the New Socialist World Order. That is something. I mean, come on, sneaking out at night to feed the poor on the streets of Rome. And this was supposedly leaked, yeah right. Leaked on purpose because Francis wanted it leaked as part of the new 'fake' image campaign. Why not just go out on the streets in the day time and feed the poor as the Pope? That would send quite a message, wouldn't it. But no, he wants to appear more Robin Hood-like. More socialist-like! He wants to appear like he's different...a new hope, a new pope with a new direction! Only problem is the direction...Socialism!

Like I've said in other threads...he is part of the circle with Obama and Putin and the Chinese. Of course, a little "Person of the Year" boost from Time Magazine never hurt the over all goals. What are those goals? A New Socialist World Order! Death to capitalism, right? In their idea of the perfect world, we no longer produce anything for profit. We produce to share. How dare any of us chase our dreams of success and owning numerous toys, such as a boat, snowmobile, nice cars and a dream home. Why should you have all that after all your hard work?

I'm all for helping the poor, hell, I am one. But, I don't believe it's the responsibility of our government to do that. I believe it should fall to charities and churches. More of the haves should willingly help the have-nots. Spreading the wealth isn't the answer. Even though I'm one of those have-nots, I'm not waiting in line for my hand out...I'm still out there busting my arse keeping the dream alive that maybe one day, I'll have those toys through hard work and not because someone gave them to me.

So, if we move to a socialist state, then do we all get a nice new boat? If that's the case, sign me up!

Wait a minute...but does that mean that the farmer who works his arse off doesn't get paid for his produce or his livestock. He should feel good about how his hard work is feeding someone who isn't working at all. I change my mind. I can live without the boat.

Pro-Socialists, correct me if I'm wrong, please. I need to understand the thinking here.

Rant over....
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posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 06:49 PM
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It seems to me that this Pope is a puppet who does not have the power of the previous ones.


Funny - I see the opposite - I think this Pope is a renegade

I'm not religious - but he's got my attention for other reasons. This man has the ear of 1.2 billion people - and then some. Then there's all the money and political clout that comes with that. He has influence. He could be a force for a lot of positive changes in this world

In this day and age, some of us might be forgiven for wanting (or needing) a hero here or there and now and then. They are so rare. I've had my heart broke before - just like everybody else

He seems to walk the walk he talks - this is why he's person of the year

Sorry Miley

:-)
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posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 07:03 PM
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But no, he wants to appear more Robin Hood-like. More socialist-like! He wants to appear like he's different...a new hope, a new pope with a new direction! Only problem is the direction...Socialism!


You guys are really working some overtime these days - aren't you?

:-)



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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Spiramirabilis

You guys are really working some overtime these days - aren't you?

:-)


Well somebody's got to pull the overtime when so many are content to sit and wait for their hearts to be broken when yet again the walking on water is shown to be talking on and on while the boat sails away with the made on board and the masses huddle on the shore and hope for a hero once more.



posted on Dec, 17 2013 @ 08:26 AM
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Pope Francis is TIME Magazine's Person of the Year for doing nothing at all

I think you missed the point of why he was chosen.


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posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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Well his words have turned to action and that's what I have been looking for.


Pope Francis dumps a United States Cardinal who has spoken out against equality

from article

Well it seems the Pope has taken one positive step and has released Cardinal Raymond Burke, former Archbishop of St. Louis in the United States.

Burke has been very vocal against abortion rights and same-sex marriage and Pope Francis has decided this message does not fit into his Vatican office.

According to TPM:

"He has also been publicly critical of Francis's changes in the direction of the church. Burke retains his position as the head of the Vatican high court, the Apostolic Signatura.

This is the type of meaningful action the secular world is looking for and hopefully more of the same will come from this Pope. Though retaining his high court status means those keeping a watchful and skeptical eye will continue to do so.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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Good stuff. Glad to hear it.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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This Time magazine award is totally irrelevant. It has circulation of just under 3.5 million copies. The magazine titled "Better Homes And Gardens" has circulation of twice that amount. Of the best selling magazines in The US it is in eleventh position.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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WOW I didn't know we judge relevance of information based on its circulation.

Next thing you will tell me is that truthfulness of media is based on ratings.



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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Grimpachi
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WOW I didn't know we judge relevance of information based on its circulation.

Next thing you will tell me is that truthfulness of media is based on ratings.


3.5 million people know that The Pope Is Person Of The Year or whatever it's called.

7 million people know what is the best grass seed to sow for a good lawn.

What do you think is more relevant to people?



posted on Dec, 26 2013 @ 04:45 PM
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Something tells me that you just don't like Popes in general.
Anti-Catholic?
I mean, I don't care if you are or not...
but don't start a thread claiming that Pope Francis has not done anything to deserve this honor, when you're really just mad that a Catholic was chosen...

I think he's deserving of the honor, so does many, many others. I'm not a practicing Catholic...as a matter of fact, I was confirmed a Methodist at 13(baptized Catholic as a baby)...so it's not like the Pope is my dog in this fight.
I mean...he's already the Pope, it's not like this gives him any more authority than before.

If you really want to start a thread about people receiving high awards and honors without deserving it or doing any of the work...there's a guy you should see.
He lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...it's in Washington, DC...but you'll have to wait...

He's on vacation.


Besides...didn't Time almost make Osama bin Laden person of the year in 2001?
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