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A Swedish study found that the planet was warmer in ancient Roman times and the Middle Ages than today, challenging the mainstream idea that man-made greenhouse gas emissions are the main drivers of global warming.
The study, by scientist Leif Kullman, ... found that tree lines for different species of trees were higher during the Roman and Medieval times than they are today. Not only that, but the temperatures were higher as well.
Kullman also wrote that “summer temperatures during the early Holocene thermal optimum may have been 2.3°C higher than present.”
According to Kullman, the temperature spikes were during the Roman and Medieval warming periods.
Shaiker
I blame liberals for the ill effects of any (if any ) greenhouse gasses on our environment today due to over regulating businesses with a heavy hand resulting in their flight to china where they pollute 10 times as much than they would have under reasonable regulations here in the us. We are under the same roof as countries such as china so in affect we are trying to protect one room of the house by not lighting candles while the kids are playing with matches and gas in the room next to us.edit on 14-12-2013 by Shaiker because: (no reason given)
CJCrawley
I already knew about the MWP, but I wasn't aware it was warmer during the Roman Empire period too.
Thinking about it, there are clues if you look for them.
I was astonished when I discovered that ancient Britons used to fight naked.
If that were to happen now, they'd die of exposure long before the enemy got to them...
Shaiker
reply to post by OneManArmy
Corporations are businesses in it to make a profit. If a higher profit can be made in legal ways as a share holder I would expect them to do so else the competing corporation will take market share. Drive by any Walmart in america today and the majority of them will be filled with shoppers whom are greed driven much like corporations. Congress is greed driven else corporations would not have the flexibility of producing good elsewhere while marketing here.
Greed in the world is possessed in the majority of humanity its what drives innovation. Everything you do today 'unless your off the grid' is empowered by corporations one way or the other. Perhaps the biggest corporation of the world is our country and we as shareholder continue to elect ' if you want to think its not fixed' our ceo and board members despite their inept ability to provide stability for the country.
ketsuko
reply to post by OneManArmy
I blame governance systems that don't care.
China obviously doesn't care, but hey! everyone says we should be more like them governmentally.
In China, the state is the corporation is the state. One day, you could be a high level businessman and ride to work in a limo; the next, you could be disgraced and wind up executed for failing the state/corporation. Yes, my husband worked with people who came from there, and those are the stories they told.
ketsuko
reply to post by OneManArmy
What we have today is not exactly capitalism.
Capitalism is when I have a bunch of tomato plants and grow too many tomatoes, so I decide to sell the extra to people who would like to have them. Then, I have the money to go buy eggs from the guy down the way who has hens who lay more eggs than he can eat, so he sells them to buy milk from the guy with the cows ... etc.
It's a free exchange of goods and services between people. It's not evil.
OneManArmy
reply to post by jdub297
This was already known, at the time of the renaissance the world was much warmer, hence the booming farming and resulting boom in economies that allowed the renaissance to happen.
grey580
reply to post by jdub297
This story is so july 2012
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Old news.
But it's good to hear that people are actually doing more science on the agw thing.edit on 14-12-2013 by grey580 because: (no reason given)
jdub297
Of course, the study published in October was never given coverage by the MSM, the IPCC or the AGW warmist alliance faithful.
Kullman's peer-reviewed article was published in the Nordic Journal of Botany online pending the release of a forthcoming paper edition of the Journal. Since its findings refute the catastrophic predictions of what a warmer climate would be like in reality, it has been largely ignored until now.
With the breaking story and upcoming edition, Kuullman's observations should become the subject of much more discussion, and derision from the AGW priests and proselytizers of the CAGW orthodoxy.
This study follows closely on other recent "revelations" of the obvious: the warming has paused despite explosive growth in GHG emissions, the lack of ocean inundation and decreased rates of rise in sea levels, the lack of a connection between extreme weather events and AGW climate "modeling," and the extraordinary cold gripping the Earth ahead of the winter solstice.
Some of us have likely heard that the coldest temperatures ever recorded on the planet were detected by recent satellite observations (despite warmist assertions that the greatest effects of AGW would be seen at the poles).
Most of the world is probably unaware that similar satellite measurements have revealed the our oceans are not rising as fast as the fear-mongers want them to believe.
Swedish climate scientist Lennart Benggston has completed and published his analysis of 20 years' worth of satellite measurements of ocean levels around the globe. Amazingly, and of course un-reportedly, he has found that the measurements reveal that rising sea levels have NOT accelerated, as claimed by the IPCC and other AGW advocates/alarmists. Rather, they have followed the same trend since the end of the last ice age, taking tectonic movement and "rebound" into account as lad springs-back after being compressed under ice.
It should be abundantly clear by now that the bogus alarmist warnings and failed "projections" prove that their underlying hypotheses are flawed and skewed by political and economic interests, rather than true "climate science," which relies upon observation, measurement and empirical data instead of tailored "models" and "adjusted" proxies that serve only to confirm the advocates biases and greed.