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I was wrong - god may exist. So... about my revelations cypher theory

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posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 02:20 AM
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I know I may have said in the past


Past being 30 posts ago ? Was that yesterday ?

So you went from no God to yes God overnight ?...or two...just surfing ATS...





posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 04:34 AM
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if god announced himself I'd be like, oh alright, lol I must be satan then... its been a waiting game so long to change the strat would be well, amazing, but unexpectable



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 05:29 AM
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RevelationsDivad
I know I may have said in the past that god doesn't exist because of his logic being off. It doesn't matter if gods logic is askew, much of the population of this planets people logic is askew. God may have an obscure system of communicating and his ways that are unexemptable of evil - You cannot tell a beings existence within measuring its logic. I haven't gotten far enough with my "Proximity Simulator" so I decided to say this. But my theories on the Revelations cypher stands firm. I have a lot of studying to do - and I am at an advantage because of my diagnosis skills of the communications. I'd give it out but it seems no one trusts me. It seems as if people are too afraid that I might steal their personal information - which I would never do. Wish me luck with my communications.

So what have people come up with about the revelations cypher? - aka: cyphering and doing the last book of the bible by yourself on land. The body of revelations (first part): you... The destruction in revelations (second part): what is cyphered... The salvation of revelations (third part): outcome

remember the news that 700 birds gorged themselves and died. Same thing that happens in revelations.

I can't give too much detail for the fact that I am already being effortlessly watched by the NSA's Echelon.

I wish you people luck!


they are watching you!

stop this behavior, before it's too late.



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 07:56 AM
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Given the conspicuous lack of explanation for the conversion, I can't say I'm inclined to take any of this seriously.



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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You, a mortal being of finite logic, cannot judge the Infinite Being and the Creator and Sustainer of Logic,

how can you even begin to criticize or judge that which your mind cannot even begin to fathom?

Isaiah 55:8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts.

Psalm 40:4 Blessed is that man who makes the Lord his trust,
And does not respect the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.
5 Many, O Lord my God, are Your wonderful works
Which You have done;
And Your thoughts toward us
Cannot be recounted to You in order;
If I would declare and speak of them,
They are more than can be numbered.

God bless



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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It's only judging when they dare to question your assumptions.



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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AfterInfinity
Given the conspicuous lack of explanation for the conversion, I can't say I'm inclined to take any of this seriously.


Knowing you and being a sometime reader of yours I can certainly see why you would (not be inclined to take the obvious good natured humor here as it fails to present itself seriously). Humor is in and of itself three things; ironic (words used to express the OPPOSITE of literal meaning/situation), sarcastic (a more evolved irony as in bitter cutting responsive retorts) or sardonic (a bitter, scornfull derision, sneering, mocking attitude toward others). Not funny enough to take seriously; or not ugly enough to jump in and fan some flames.



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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use the New International Version or The KJV for this:

I'll give you guys some tips - segduj (read backwards) ch - 16, V - 26 has the same environment as the last book in the bible ch- 3, V-12 figure out what it means, this is your ultimate task.

AND! it says in the last book of the bible that the sea are a multitude of evil people right? Well why does Solomon have the "sea" in his temple plan?

It should take you 12 years to figure it out if you first figure out how to fix your communications. I can't give out too much information because like I said I'm being watched by Echelon. I'm sorry.

The Revelations cypher is just another look at revelations (won't spell the name of the book right...oh no I won't) There are many other ways to interpret it - Too many. But you must understand yourself then you will find the object that opens the door to the KJV, NIV etc! (you know what I mean!)

You must Ascend! I've sent my studies to my family - hopefully this awakens people to the true truth and not just some watered down way of fixing your life.

God's existence is a trifle one. As a messenger - even I don't trust him. But if I want to get to heaven I have to do what I was put here to do. I have no choice. Hades is not an option.

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posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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salty-red
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salty-red
i tried a key out on revelations, slow speak, breaking the words down to their original components, and just got too annoyed of the contradictions, what, who hasn't figured out voice command, easiest communication to the matrix


Try 'Voice Command' in all Caps, if that doesnt work try it as all lower case enunciations and if that doesnt work attempt 'sign language for the deaf'. One of the them should work. Keep trying Im interested if revelations can be code-broke; and if you have a means/disapline to accomplish this. What do you think is the problem. I have a theory, John of Patmos knew someone in the future would use such a technology as this and deliberatly re-coded the code in anticipation. Someone said (this page) to take everything written with historical clout 'literally'. Need to re-read Herododus Histories tonight. I cant take Revelations literally; otherwise Id realize I already live in hell, along with the rest of humanity.
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posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 05:09 PM
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salty-red
if god announced himself I'd be like, oh alright, lol I must be satan then... its been a waiting game so long to change the strat would be well, amazing, but unexpectable


If God announced ITself to me (would have to be a sneak attack/sucker punch occuring) Id say "where have you been, you deadbeat psycopathic derained parent' (you left your BETTER half/partner 'Satan' to manage this system all by itself, with no supervision /rules set in place, what were you thinking).
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posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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You are a certified Schizophrenic aren't you



your posts might make sense to you but are completely disjointed to my thinking




whats with the book of Judges... you spell it ass-backwards as if that were a epiphany revelation...
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hey the realistic term that i relate to is 'small potatoes' my friend




and you believe in a superior place called 'heaven' ?? thats a fiction place which evolved from the human death experience... where suddenly the bodies endorphins swamp Ones body and they die happy------ nothing more !!


 



this reply explains the exhalted thinking processes involved......

charles1952
I'm Sorry! I'm Really Stupid!

I would like to participate in this thread, but I can't. I've read each post four times. Honestly, I can't make any sense of this stuff.

Could somebody please explain what in the world is going on here, or at least provide a simple English translation of these posts? Or, tell me what language it's in and I'll look for my own translator.

REPLY TO: charles1952;

ITS ALL ABOUT "The possibility ELVIS IS/COULD BE A VIABLE GOD DEFINITION/ASPECT"(no one knows this yet so dont spoil the fun). Dont worry about 'TRW'/Grumman connection at all; NSA operatives communication specialists; they have been absorbed by ProcterGamble/BASF/Siemens/ARCO TWINKIE products divisions (its called 'compartmentalization"; tiny nano heartbeats per humanform (NO FOOTPRINTS TO BE VISIBLE IN THE SNOW).




is this more fluff or dangerous prattle

...prattle verb -
to talk in a silly way or like a child for a long time about things...

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posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Dear St Udio,

May I present my perspective on this thread? It seems there are only two rational approaches to this thread. One, cut your mind loose from all reason and coherence, choose a word in some other post, and go into a near-psychedelic stream-of-consciousness riff.

The other approach is to sit back and observe with an amused and bemused expression, looking for an occasional coherence formed purely by chance.

Jumping in as you did, or as I did on the first page, violates the spirit of mental anarchy which is the guiding principle to this entire thread.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 07:56 PM
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charles1952
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Dear St Udio,


Jumping in as you did, or as I did on the first page, violates the spirit of mental anarchy which is the guiding principle to this entire thread.

With respect,
Charles1952



Oh... i can accept your ..... synopsis

the thread is a free-thought exercise with no restrictions or no 'real' boundaries or definitions of progression


i appreciate your input... but i have a similar 'real life' debacle presenting itself in the house=hold i am in right now


shall i just 'shut-my-mouth' or at least voice my contradiction position ??



appreciate your thoughts.... ? wanna talk above them ?



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 08:00 PM
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Oh, but it's fun.

Like a stream of consciousness thread where you almost but not quite write what you are trying to say.



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 08:12 PM
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charles1952 Dear St Udio,May I present my perspective on this thread? It seems there are only two rational approaches to this thread. One, cut your mind loose from all reason and coherence, choose a word in some other post, and go into a near-psychedelic stream-of-consciousness riff.The other approach is to sit back and observe with an amused and bemused expression, looking for an occasional coherence formed purely by chance. Jumping in as you did, or as I did on the first page, violates the spirit of mental anarchy which is the guiding principle to this entire thread.


I like the notion of amused/bemused; and jumping in at a point within my stream of consciousness observed and reaction (conversation) that adds to No THING or builds upon something that could define EVERYTHING. As you say the coherence of 'understanding' is pure chance and beautiful when it happens (poetic). Why not an anarchy within a thread as long as is still on topic; Mental GYMNASTICS to take something (ideawise) somewhere else FREEFORMED exponentially expressed. I would hope for that in a thread Id created (its a rare gem when happens) as I dont know how to polish it up and make it shiny enough to endure critisism.
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posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 08:25 PM
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vethumanbeing


I like the notion of amused/bemused; and jumping in at a point within my stream of consciousness observed and reaction (conversation) that adds to No THING or builds upon something that could define EVERYTHING. As you say the coherence of 'understanding' is pure chance and beautiful when it happens (poetic). Why not an anarchy within a thread as long as is still on topic; Mental GYMNASTICS to take something (ideawise) somewhere else FREEFORMED exponentially expressed. I would hope for that in a thread Id created (its a rare gem when happens) as I dont know how to polish it up and make it shiny enough to endure critisism.
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that kind of exercse is (or should be) devoted to a creative a writing course in a University environment...
whats going on is a high-jacking of scholarly debate---
IOWs a high-jacking very much simiiar to the 0bama intrusion into the WH & Presidency Kapisch ?



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 08:35 PM
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Dear St Udio,

No! Don't take the same position at home.

ATS is a temporary, anonymous environment. The biggest risks here are that one might expose himself as a fool (as I have done on occasion), or be forced to suffer insults and scurrilous attacks (been there, done that).

At home you're dealing with real people and the stakes are high. If such a thing as diplomatic or polite frankness is possible, I suspect that's the way to go. You, as a person, are valuable and have great dignity which should be respected. Surrendering your basic principles in exchange for the chance of peace, turns you into a slave and destroys your dignity. It's a little like negotiating with terrorists. Once someone knows you will surrender if they merely threaten some evil, there is no easy place to stop it.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Dec, 14 2013 @ 08:40 PM
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Dear vethumanbeing,

My only regret is that I didn't catch on to the structure and purpose (or lack of structure and sublimely random purpose) of this thread sooner than I did.

It's beautiful in a way. Not rigidly perfect like a diamond or a painting, but more like a sparkling fountain or flames from an outdoor bonfire.

In a twisted way, I'm coming to appreciate it as it is.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 01:34 AM
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AMEN man, A- to the freakin MEN, full agreement



posted on Dec, 15 2013 @ 01:37 AM
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my problem charles, was chasin "PI", (ghost in the machine, more like) for so long I couldn't ignore anymore. Schizo? YEP, and that just means, sick of the skits and shows, while those already in the know, control, and not that well i may say, mental illness is a product of the masses falling for a lie, that's my input
edit: "falling for a lie", NAH, not at all, persecuted by lies and low level ideas of domination, more like
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