reply to post by soficrow
It's still early days, but it seems we have cured my wife's fibromyalgia!
Symptoms were that first her muscles would contract without being able to relax and as things gets worse her whole body would go into a state of
inflamation so that you couldn't touch her for the pain. Spray on magnesium provided at least some level of relief.
The key is here: cardiologyli.com...
TL;DR version:Fluoride binds to Aluminium and the ion that forms looks chemically highly similar to the oxygenated phosphor ions that bind to
Adenosine to make ATP/ADP or Guanine to make GTP/GDP.
Many of your hormone and neurotransmitter receptors are G-coupled proteins. They use a GDP molecule inside, when the neuro/hormone signal gets
triggered, the GDP normally becomes a GTP, the secondary message system kicks off and the receptor resets by kicking off the new phosphate to become
Now what happens is that instead of the oxygenated phosphorus ion, the GDP binds to an Aluminium fluoride and the gets stuck in that state, so it
can't switch off.
It does exactly the same to ATP and gets stuck in other key energy reactions And is possibly one of the key things that goes wrong to cause CFS.
Now Fluoride also inhibits acetylcholinestrase, so once released, it doesn't break down and the muscles don't relax. This produces pain, the pain
triggers inflamation, and the inflamation doesn't want to go away as the signaling system is compromised.
How to get out of this bind? I an not a doctor, but the doctors around here didn't know so I read up on alternate health sites and came accross a
method of using Borax. Borax has an LD50 similar to salt. It is however restricted in food I the EU as it can cause problems with the development of
your baby if you're pregnant. Something else that I found in research is that Boron makes B2 more water soluble, so B2 supplementation is essential!
Aluminium Fluoride is a very stable molecule and for some reason has shorted an normal covalent bonds. So once it is there, it is a bitch to get out.
Borax is SodiumBorate. Boron is interesting as it can act as both an anion and cation. It is also one of the few atoms that will steal some of the
fluorides off an Aluminium. In the process it may also bind to other halides like chlorine, bromine and iodene. You need chlorine and iodene, you
probably have more bromine than what is good for you. Once the Aluminium has lost some or all fluorides it can do the other evil things that Aluminium
gets up to, like ruining your methelation cycle. But at least in other forms it leaves the body quite easily.
Please note that this procedure can be risky. Make sure you have a sympathetic doctor available should anything go awry. Listen to your body, if
something doesn't feel right, STOP. Take it slowly, test small amounts of everything separately first to check your body's response. Be ready for
things to change fast and not always in a good way as your body's signaling starts working better. We have had a rough ride, but anything is better
than the excruciating pain of the Fibro.
Also important is that my wife has been on the GAPS diet for about 2 years, only organic foods, absolutely no MSG or anything containing Aspartate
because of a compromised blood brain barrier.
After quite a bit of trial and (painful) error, this is what we found worked best:
Preload in the morning and continuously top up as required with:
Co factors: B1, B2, B6, CoQ10 and a good multi anti-oxidant ISP good start. The B2 in a lot higher doses than normal is essential as the Boron will
make you lose more B2 than normal.
Silica: Aluminium likes replacing silica in enzymes. If you break up the AlF, the loose Aluminium has to go somewhere. We want it to bind to a Citrate
or Malate and leave via the urine. Taking sufficient silica stops the free Aluminium from breaking more things and possibly teaming up with fluoride
again. I'd advise against using Horsetail as a silica source, unless it says something on the product about not containing Thiaminase. Horsetail
normally has some Thiaminase, which breaks down your Vit B1 and can cause tremors and even neural damage if not properly supplemented.
Magnesium: Excess fluoride drains your body of magnesium. Some older research has show that this lack of magnesium alone can cause CFS and Fibro. Best
supplementation is with Magnesium Citrate and Magnesium Malate if you can get hold of it. A little bit of Magnesium Chloride helps too, but that is
better absorbed via the skin. Too much Magnesium gives you diarrhea, so magnesium chloride spray was invaluable. Later I had the idea to make lipoic
Magnesium Citrate which helped a lot (search for lipoic Vit C and switch the VitC for Magnesium Citrate). My doctor told us that taurine helps with
magnesium absorption, so that should be safe advice. The rest you do at your own risk!
Iodene: the Boron may take out iodene along with the fluorine. This is especially dangerous if you have thyroid issues. Keep a close watch on your
body temperature. If it falls even a bit stop with the borax and get it stabilized first. Discuss this with your doctor if you have thyroid issues.
Chlorine: the boron and additional sodium also removes chlorine from your body. This is easier to supplement. If you don't have high blood pressure
issues, sea salt is a great source. My wife had serious Cl issues and what we found a while ago that works is a drop or 2 of HCl n a glass of water.
Getting hold of pharmacuitcal grade HCl can be tricky. BetaineHcl also works well but can impact Methylation cycle issues.
Then the Borax (not boric acid!!!!!!): 1/8th of a teaspoon dissolved in a liter of water. Add some apple cider vinegar to balance e ph and improve the
taste and add some Malic acid to the mix to help take out the Aluminium. Sip slowly through the day. Do this for max 5 days in the week,mother give it
some rest. Take it slowly, listen to your body. Stop for a while if it complains.
To help control the Fibro symptoms, desloratidine antihistamine is a reasonably strong anticholergenic and helped with the acetylcholinesterase
inhibition. Small amounts of asprin has a metabolite that inhibits the enzyme that makes acetylcholine, which helped as well. Too much asprin can
create other issues. Tumeric heated in organic cold-pressed coconut oil worked wonders for the inflammation. Cats claw is also your friend, so is
It took about 8 weeks of this with symptoms going up and down and then the pain started disappearing!!! In the process, her dopamine linked depression
also started getting less and less and she had to go off the antidepressant she was using. Her sleep pattern improved to the point where she could
stop taking sleeping aids (all herbal, the pharma ones all caused very bad side effects eventually). Her neuralgic Herpes Zoster infection of 6 years
stopped for the first time. She started losing weight that she picked up over the years.
A serious problem that the happened was that infections she had flared up. The bacteria don't like Aluminium and fluoride either. But how we got past
that, ammonia overload from H Pylori, then syndrome from metabolizing years of ssri's is a story for another post.
I hope this helps someone. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!!!!