posted on Dec, 10 2013 @ 10:40 PM
reply to post by Helious
Do you remember when you were 16? You probably thought like most people that you had the entire world figured out and every adult on the planet
was some kind of raging idiot for disagreeing with you.
Not every adult. Just most. And I still do.
If I had got busted at 16 with an alcohol violation I would have taken it seriously.
More serious than say… getting drunk and driving instead of following through with the terms of my parole about a prior alcohol incident. I would
have attended that class and done the community service. I wouldn't have drink again and then driven shortly after getting cited for it.
Being young and dumb might make someone 'innocent' but like I said before this has to take a back seat to the bigger picture. Preventing future
harm to innocents
. Has he given reason to believe he's not safe in society right now?
Yes. Yes he has. He clearly was not taking the matter seriously. He was clearly not following through with the terms of his probation. The resulting
deaths are clearly connected to that fact.
I agree about his license though, I don't think he should be allowed to drive until he is off probation
One glaring issue with this. He wasn't listening to the rules before, what reason do we have to believe he will listen to this one and not drive
without a license? None really.
Should he violate his terms
We are in agreement there except I think he already has.
I just don't think we should risk it by giving him yet another chance to screw up. I think he needs prison time. How much I don't know. Like you said
this isn't about vengeance, I don't think we should look at this like we are trying to ruin yet another life, but instead potentially save some. Maybe
a couple years so he literally can't drink and drive for a while, and truly get the message across society is not okay with drunk people accidentally
killing our families.
edit on 10-12-2013 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)