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Thank you, from that point of view you are entirely correct, and I apologize.
The way I was looking at it, and this is personal opinion only, as all our posts are, was that other women in Texas are being asked to do something that maybe they don't want to do.
And this law just isn't fair, let alone also being a political ploy to suppress women voters in an election where a woman has an outside chance of winning...
So that was my thinking process, not in words but in a concept fairly obvious immediately. I thankfully acknowledge that you point out something I didn't even think about, how many women would view it as saying "Look here, little lady..." I don't have that voice in me, so I didn't even consider that someone would hear it like that. Again, my apology.
reply to post by crazyewok
How though? If your too lazy to fill out a form or get your name changed to the correct one then you too stupid/lazy too vote. How hard is it to get a valid ID? I mean how are minoritys and the poor prevented from getting one?
I agree with you, in most cases.
However, if you are a minority working minimum wage job and not able to put food on the table, do you have the 20$ or whatever much it costs o have your ID updated?
But the same would ring true in a place like New York. Low income families don't have the time, or the money to give the Gov in order to update all of this identification, when in fact, multiple pieces of ID that they already own, should be suitable enough for election officials.
Again, I can't really prove this theory, because it is partisan and it does rely on the fact that I believe the GOP aren't above using dirty tricks to get the upper hand in elections. Neither are democrats mind you.
I'm not American either, so don't worry about the partisan part, it was really just me trying to express my speaking in generalities as opposed to specifics.
Q: Can I vote with my temporary registration certificate (TRC)?
A: No, you can only vote with your South African, green, bar-coded ID or a valid Temporary Identity Certificate (TIC). You can apply for a green, bar-coded ID or a valid TIC from the Department of Home Affairs.
so can you quit it with the poor voters being screwed out of their vote as prety much the rest of the world its standard procedure and gets old really quick
"It's an incredible system," said Nuri K. Elabbar, who traveled to the United States along with election officials from more than 60 countries to observe today's presidential elections as part of a program run by the International Foundation for Electoral Systems (IFES). Your humble Cable guy visited polling places with some of the international officials this morning. Most of them agreed that in their countries, such an open voting system simply would not work. The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification. Voters can also vote by mail, sometimes online, and there's often no way to know if one person has voted several times under different names, unlike in some Arab countries, where voters ink their fingers when casting their ballots. The international visitors also noted that there's no police at U.S. polling stations. In foreign countries, police at polling places are viewed as signs of security; in the United States they are sometimes seen as intimidating
While the Obama Justice Department, led by Attorney General Eric Holder, uses its authority to block some state voter ID laws (Texas), and investigate others (Pennsylvania), a newly-released poll shows overwhelming public support for laws requiring voters to present identification before casting a ballot. That support crosses party lines, racial lines, economic lines, educational lines, and just about every other line in the electorate at large. In the survey, the Washington Post asked, “In your view, should voters in the United States be required to show official, government-issued photo identification — such as a driver’s license — when they cast ballots on election day, or shouldn’t they have to do this?” Among all adults, 74 percent said voters should present ID, versus 23 percent who said they should not. Among registered voters, the numbers were 75 percent to 23 percent. When something has the support of 75 percent of the voters, plus the approval of the Supreme Court, which by a six-to-three vote in 2008 upheld Indiana’s voter ID law, one might think the Justice Department would give up trying to stop it.
summary of supreme court opinion
n a 6-3 decision in 2008, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the photo ID requirement, finding it closely related to Indiana's legitimate state interest in preventing voter fraud, modernizing elections, and safeguarding voter confidence. Justice John Paul Stevens, in the leading opinion, stated that the burdens placed on voters are limited to a small percentage of the population and were offset by the state's interest in reducing fraud. Stevens wrote in the majority: "The relevant burdens here are those imposed on eligible voters who lack photo identification cards that comply with SEA 483. Because Indiana's cards are free, the inconvenience of going to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, gathering required documents, and posing for a photograph does not qualify as a substantial burden on most voters' right to vote, or represent a significant increase over the usual burdens of voting. The severity of the somewhat heavier burden that may be placed on a limited number of persons—e.g., elderly persons born out-of-state, who may have difficulty obtaining a birth certificate—is mitigated by the fact that eligible voters without photo identification may cast provisional ballots that will be counted if they execute the required affidavit at the circuit court clerk’s office. Even assuming that the burden may not be justified as to a few voters, that conclusion is by no means sufficient to establish petitioners’ right to the relief they seek."
YYou Yanguis are ALL idiots.
Want to eliminate the most massive voter fraud in history?
GO BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diebold makes voter fraud a snap........
How though? Is there a law that says you cant have a ID if your poor or depressed or have a criminal record? As long as the fee is kept in check how does it disenfranchise anyone except those who are not US citzens or want to vote more than once?
because voter id's are and often were used as a tool to disenfranchise the poor, disabled, minorities, women and legal immigrants through various means, like a criminal record(for even a minor offense), depression, name changes, excessive fee's, status and etc
why restrict the rights of individuals out