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okay, so you shouldn't mind defining your terms then, should you..? what is a "sinner" and what is "God" to you..? If God is all-powerful, and against Sin, wouldn't Sin be impossible to commit?
The terms are defined in the Old and New Testament.
I told you that your answers aren't adequate for the questions they attempt to resolve. I also told you I don't have the answers, but I can suggest some questions that would assist us both in the matter.
Your response essentially told me that you agreed with my opinion that our current data sets regarding gods are now obsolete and in desperate need of reevaluation.
What sort of poetry do you like?
And what would those terms be? As I see it God allows Sin as a function of lessoning entropy; Sin vacates or facilitates GROWTH in DISHARMONY.
Godliness must prevail or the growth 'or the lessoning of entropy' will not be achieved and if this doesnt happen, we are SUNK dead in the water START OVER AGAIN ALL CIVILIZATIONS EVER OR NEW ONES WHO KNOWS (at this point dont really care to be the CARETAKER of this planet again; over and over and over again).
VeteranHumanBeingAnd what would those terms be? As I see it God allows Sin as a function of lessoning entropy; Sin vacates or facilitates GROWTH in DISHARMONY.
HyphenST1Exactly.. what SHOULD they be? this is not the same question as "what ARE the terms that make a sinner in the mind of a sinner?" because this is obviously different in the case of each person. The CONCEPT of "sinner" is much easier to communicate than the CONDITIONS that constitute "a sinner" because even when the words are memorized (the commandments), the interpretation is what truly counts because this is what influences how we ACT.
what i am saying (in agreement with your statement) God (as i am defining It: the consciousness behind your eyes/brain) allows sinful acts to compensate for a draw of energy from elsewhere (entropy).. what i am suggesting is that these concepts can be translated into very scientific and psychological concepts and say that the "God-Mind" is compensating for a "knot of energy" or "a convoluted thought-process" which would indeed limit the ability to perceive.. hence sinful-acts would be a good thing to avoid because one gains freedom - the TRUE "kingdom of heaven" residing in this mindset.
( "when one has the innocence of a child, only then can he enter into the kingdom of heaven".
VeteranHumanBeing Godliness must prevail or the growth 'or the lessoning of entropy' will not be achieved and if this doesnt happen, we are SUNK dead in the water START OVER AGAIN ALL CIVILIZATIONS EVER OR NEW ONES WHO KNOWS (at this point dont really care to be the CARETAKER of this planet again; over and over and over again).
the only way i disagree, is where you put that 'or' when you say "growth (...) will not be achieved" and that 'if' as if there were an alternative to the natural process/nature of the universe...we CAN create alternatives (as one fellow tried to use as an opposition to my point) and this is NO LESS REAL than so-called "objective reality", but we must remember that it exists INSIDE of this universe, and any created-worlds gladly co-exist and do not "cancel out" the already-existing reality.
I don't think that you are OBLIGATED to be a "caretaker of the planet" anymore than you are of your own body.. your body will not somehow go into "auto pilot" and prevent you from starving yourself and drinking yourself to death (i mean.. it will try to until a certain point, but you know what i mean!) but i wouldn't suggest it haha..the way i see it, the body of the earth is kind of like a 30-something year old college drop-out who has gone to raves since the 90s and is now partying with 15 year olds and trying to figure out if he should try a different routine/method for going about life haha.
In sympathy for the poor bloke, the answer is always easier to see by everyone but him.. perhaps this is how the extra-terrestrials feel?? :O
I FELT THAT HUG, thank you BardingTheBard.
I really appreciate the presentation of another view in this discussion.
There is a big difference between understanding your identity and position as a 'part of the Divine creator' that is this Universe; and being able to effectively use it for the good of this planet. Everything you have put forward is in essence correct; but what purpose can it now serve you and us? With lack of vision, it is unfortunately as meaningless as any of the theologies.