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Originally posted by curme
As to gender, that's up to the BSA.
Do I have to support their segregation?
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Do you really think they should allow girls in the boy scouts even though they have the girl scouts? Or are you just kidding?
[edit on 19-11-2004 by ShadowXIX]
Originally posted by curme
I seriously see no need for two different scouts. No kidding.
Want me to blow your mind further?
I see no need for gender sports!
May the best person win!
EDIT: About the scouts. What's the difference? Do they teach the girls how to bake, and the boys how to whittle and spit?
[edit on 19-11-2004 by curme]
Originally posted by Whiskey Jack
Originally posted by SgtNFury
The simple explanation and solution is that the BSA is a private organisation
That receives public funding, which is the crux of the issue. The ACLU's problem is not that the Boy Scouts are using space on military bases for their meetings. The problem is that the Boy Scouts are using space on military bases free of charge, when all other private organizations must pay for the same privilige.
Originally posted by FredT
Speaking as an Eagle Scout: The scouts by and large are dead. they are just waiting for someone to claim the body.
They like the church have failed to or been too slow to adopt change to stay relevant with changing times. Its too bad really as the leadership skills alone made it worht my time and effort.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Is the BSA really a religious institution?
They seem to require affirmations of certain religious stances. Therefore they are a religious group. They have also repeatedly asserted that they are a private organization that has the right to reject atheists, gays, and other types of kids from joining. THey are entirely right, they are a private group and are allowed to discriminate. That also requires that the government not sponsor, fund, or support them.
Yes the have a right to dicriminate. Tell me if you have a young son, do you want a homosexual troop leader? If you do...then you have no right to be a parent. This is common sense. To keep the children from harm.
The Pentagon, the ACLU, and the pissant, whiney, self-important Athiest parent who complained for the sake of complaining about this have all made a big mistake with this.
They are completely on the right side here. The national organization of the BSA are discriminatory, on the basis of creed and sexuality. They cannot be 'sponsored' by the government.
If the parents are Athiest are, why the hell are the sending their children to be Boy Scouts....AGAIN COMMON SENSE
The BSA insisted on having the right to discriminate against kids. They are of course allowed to, but, well, actions have consequences, and one of those in this case is just this event. They can't have it both ways.
intelearthling
The Boy Scouts aren't trying to have it both ways. They believe what they believe. If you don't sgree...DON'T SEND YOUR KIDS!!!!!
Atheists and the ungodly ACLU are trying to breach the high morals that the BSA instills in millions of our fine young boys that will eventually become outstanding citizens of this great nation.
The Boy Scouts have their belif in God and Family.......THERE IS NOTHING PROHIBITING THIS IN THE CONSTITUTION!!
How? They are merely noting that the BSA discriminates, and thus is not allowed to receive public funds. YOu think its alright to tax atheists and gays, effectively asking them for money, and then use that money to support a group that won't allow atheists and gays into it?
sgntfury
If you don't believe in this...DON'T SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO JOIN. Again COMMON F'IN SENSE....PEOPLE!
then DON'T JOIN! IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE YOU PATHETIC MORON! IF YOU DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO THE SCOUTS' VALUES, THEN WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BELONG, ANYWAY
And if you don't want atheists and gays in your group thn stop requiring them to pay money to support you group.
shadow
I was in the Boy Scouts well the Cub Scouts
I was in the scouts too, its an excellent organization, they should allow atheists and gays to join and not discriminate, the national org made a stupid decision, and now they have to suffer the consequences. Alls fair right, why should the BSA get special exceptions?
[edit on 19-11-2004 by Nygdan]
Originally posted by CSRules
Again...I ask...How many of you actually wanting a GAY...(Excuse me ..I forgot to be P.C. Homosexual) Watching over your child?!?! If you have no freakin common sense the you don't deserve to be a parent, AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR CHILD!!!!!!
Come on people use some freakin common sense!!! Your just asking for trouble. And you same parents who are fighting this, ARE THE SAME SOB'S WHO WILL SUE WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOUR CHILD!!!!!!
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Man whats with the ACLU attacking the Boy Scouts they couldnt find anyone easier to pick on perhaps a Brownie group or War Widows. Man I cant stand the ACLU
I was in the Boy Scouts well the Cub Scouts and thought it was great Org. for young kids.