reply to post by Malynn
That's OK. They're also shooting snowy owls at JFK airport, too.
I understand the dangers and damages caused when a bird gets caught in a plane engine, but why are we shooting them rather than netting them? Are snowy owls that numerous at any one time that we couldn't do it?
reply to post by someoneinnyc
It does usually take more than one to bring down a plane, but not to damage one.
Regardless, they are shooting the owls..
reply to post by Echtelion
I honestly don't know what to make of this. I've never looked into this very much.
The birds (of all types) are disappearing, personally I believe it is a combination of cellular and other radio frequencies (RF) and pestisides/herbisides in their food supplies. Were it not for those factors, I don't believe that wind farms would cause any significant damage to any bird population; by their nature birds have to be sensitive to wind currents and I doubt they would approach an area of such turbulance without being disabled in some prior manner.
Yes wind farms will be in prime hunting grounds for predatory birds, open fields where the birds can see for miles.
I don't know enough about the subject to really know. However, it is fact that airports are bad for birds and we have never debated their wisdom, maybe we should.
When I was young and first living in Los Angeles, I remember huge flocks of birds overhead during their migrations - no more; pigeons & seagulls were everywhere, rather rare today. Birds used to be everywhere, not so much today and now I live in a semi rural area. Mostly we have crows and, of all things, parrots (thank you Busch Gardens).
Wrabbit2000and do everything possible to avoid killing the birds.
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Okay, I'm lost. The OP article very clearly says they ARE taking measures to prevent the deaths of birds. So, by definition, you're assuming everything in the OP article is false in it's face?
Also, to be frank? I am not going to wring my hands or even lose a moments sleep over birds being minced through windturbines which even I can clearly see from several miles away. These aren't subtle or made to blend into ,..pretty much anything. They can't be made any more obvious to stand out from what is around them, save for maybe painting them all blaze orange. Tho..would birds even respond to that?
Anyway... Sorry for our avian friends, but we DO SHARE this big rock, and that is not, as some would make it, a ONE sided concept. They can avoid suicide by windmill or they can fly right into what couldn't be missed by a blind man (they are ANYTHING but quiet, close up, too...so it's really baffling).
Bottom line tho? I like my electricity and the insanity over EVERY animal, EVERYWHERE needing protection at the EXPENSE of anything and everything man may want to do now? Well... It's become extreme to the point of fanatic in many cases. Just...fanatic.
Right now, as an AP investigation has documented, wind farms are killing eagles in violation of the law. Not a single wind energy company has a permit authorizing the killing, harm or harassment of eagles, although five-year permits have been available since 2009. That puts companies at legal risk and discourages private investment in renewable energy.
It also doesn’t help eagles, since without a permit, companies are not required to take steps to reduce their impact on the birds or report when they kill them.