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Research of the beast of Revelation. Possible April 2014

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: spy66

The dragon is the Roman Empire.

In verse 2, the beast is compared to the lion, leopard and bear because those animals are kingdoms like the beast. The dragon is Rome. Those animals are the same of the book of Daniel and it is interesting to note that Daniel didn’t know how to call the 4th animal, it was different from the other kingdoms, the dragon gave its power to the beast, in other words, Imperial Rome gave its power to religious Rome: the papacy




posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: SRS82
a reply to: spy66

The dragon is the Roman Empire.

In verse 2, the beast is compared to the lion, leopard and bear because those animals are kingdoms like the beast. The dragon is Rome. Those animals are the same of the book of Daniel and it is interesting to note that Daniel didn’t know how to call the 4th animal, it was different from the other kingdoms, the dragon gave its power to the beast, in other words, Imperial Rome gave its power to religious Rome: the papacy


But non of them were actually real beasts. They were nations/Kingdoms. But what makes a nation or a Kingdom a beast?

It is the nature of the beast that really is the beast. It is its political attitude and political believes that make a nation or a Kingdom a beast. Because a kindom or a nation without a agressive attitude and agressive political believes would not be a beast. It can look like a beast, but it wont hurt anyone if it dosent have a agressvie attitude or a agressive political belielif system.

The leading beast within Our century is Democracy. And we all worship that beast. We vote for it and we maintain it and we would sacrifice Our lives to keep it alive. The once who do not worship Democracy are being hunted Down as we speak. And we have labled them all as terrorists.

There are a few other beasts lurking as well. Some are more known than others. But how many are there?


The Roman empire can not be the Dragon. Because the Roman Empire was not cast Down from heavan and into Earth.

The Roman Empire needed to be destroyed and give way for the beasts in revelation 13. This is also explained by the papal see.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: SRS82
a reply to: spy66

The dragon is the Roman Empire.

In verse 2, the beast is compared to the lion, leopard and bear because those animals are kingdoms like the beast. The dragon is Rome. Those animals are the same of the book of Daniel and it is interesting to note that Daniel didn’t know how to call the 4th animal, it was different from the other kingdoms, the dragon gave its power to the beast, in other words, Imperial Rome gave its power to religious Rome: the papacy


But non of them were actually real beasts.

beast: An animal, especially a large or dangerous four-footed one
www.oxforddictionaries.com...

The Roman empire can not be the Dragon. Because the Roman Empire was not cast Down from heavan and into Earth.

The dragon is both Satan and the Roman empire. Duality.

The Roman Empire needed to be destroyed and give way for the beasts in revelation 13. This is also explained by the papal see.

Sure. The papacy will be destroyed. And the 8th king will be destroyed by the lamb.



posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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"The roman church in this way privily pushed itself into the place of the roman world-empire, of which it is the actual continuation; the empire has not perished, but has only undergone a transformation ... The pope, who calls himself "King" and "Pontifex Maximus", is Caesar's successor."
Adolf Harnack, What Is Christianity? Page 270

"The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority"

"The Roman Empire gave the papacy his power and his throne and great authority"
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posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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once again the key in "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

as it applies in today's reality/world,, would be,"who is able to make war with him" or as i understand it,, who today is able to defeat this beast at all out war?
So which Nation today is the strongest militarily?

not a hard question i would think.

quote "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." unquote,,would be the "him".



posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

That's what you think. There are no historical or biblical evidence.

The United States is the second beast though, not the first.
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posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
once again the key in "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

as it applies in today's reality/world,, would be,"who is able to make war with him" or as i understand it,, who today is able to defeat this beast at all out war?
So which Nation today is the strongest militarily?

not a hard question i would think.

quote "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." unquote,,would be the "him".



The beast is not about military strength but political rule. The military are only Tools which the beast will use.

If you read the verses you should clearly understand that there is actually politics the beasts reasons With.

Some eksamples that state that the beast uses politics to controll us all: From revelation 13.
1. upon his heads the name of blasphemy. It speaks against God. This is politics.

2. and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
The dragon gave him Power and his seat, and great authority. This is all about poltical Power.

3. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. This is all about political Power. People dont fallow just anyone randomly. There is a reason People fallow.

4.4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? This is not about military Power but about political morals. We worship Democracy because we think that Democracy is all about peace and prosparity. Who wants to fight against peace and prosparity? Why do we have to force other nations to fallow Our Democracy? This is taking Place right now if you fallow the News. It is the political argument used to invade other nations.

It is said in the Bible that Satan is the angel of light. That means you wont see the dark side before its to late. If te Bible is right we will all fall for the light. Because we dont see the danger of what we are doing.

5. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. Her it is wery clearly stated that it is all about politics. It is by politics alone that the beast will trap us all in the end. It is by politics everything from deals and laws are formed and agreed upon. If that dont work military force will be used to enforce the New political policy. We are doing this right now. We are using brut force to force nations to fallow Our democratic standard.

PS. The Pope is not a beast. The Pope is one of the ten horns growing on the beast. Thereby the Pope is not a beast but a political tool. The reason the Pope is one of the ten horns is because the vatican have a large crowd of fallowers world wide. The Pope would never have been one of the ten horns on the beast if no one had fallowed the papal see. The beast is the multituds of People. No one can be a leader without a flock of sheep.



4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

This verse is also tellig us something else. It is the dragon which gives Power to the beast. Now, do you remember who the beast was from verse 13, 1 ? It is the People who are the real beast. The beast come out of the sea. The sea represents the multitudes of People. We are the once who are going to do all the evils that are stated in the bible, and we are going to do Satans work. All in the name of politics. Satan will not be destoyed by humans. Because satan is not a being but a awareness; A angel of light. A angle of religion and politics. Satan is the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Satan is the angel of ligt.

We can not kill angels. We can not see them. We can not hear them. Satan the angle of light planted his seed of light within man in the garden of eden a long time ago. This seed have been evolving like evolution within man through time. The Bible is a timeline that fallows the evolution of man. The brain of the beast is the knowledge of good and evil. Good and evil or good or bad is about politics. We are always trying to sort the good Choices from the bad Choices. And get ridd of evil. Who in their right mind wants to fight against Our quest to make good Choices and fight evil? No one, it goes against Our moral understanding and religious believes. Jesus wants us to be good and make good Choices. So this becomes hard and confusing for us, because we dont know how to live in peace without a government or without being governed by others. This is why we will fail as mentioned in the Bible.

If we now know who the beast is. Who is the dragon in revelation 13,4?


And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:


This is not hard at all. If the beast are multituds of People. What do People fallow and worship? It aint religion or the military or a person. We worship political Choices and political policy's "Democracy". Our history is full of this stuff. These are the fundementals that build great and powerfull nations. It builds the beast and gives it strength.

PS. No one fallows their religion, not the once who live in a democratic society. These believes first have to fallow the political laws of man and if their religion dont break the laws of man these poeple wont be punished by the laws of man.



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posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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not all are decieved,,ie :
" if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
and here,
"no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen"
here again,
"and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."

So no, not all are decieved.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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"dragon which gives Power to the beast."
i know this is an allegory,but in today's parlance i would see that as ,, ie: the Senate giving the Power of say,, War,, too a different branch of said beast for instance.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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John Paul II coffin

Triple sarcophagus of the pharaoh

John Paull II and the ritual of Isis



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: SRS82

time.com...

ahh ur just mad,,


Pope for Legal Dope? Still Nope.

Elizabeth Dias @elizabethjdias 11:37 AM ET


"The Holy Father is standing firm against recreational drugs,
even as his home continent pushes for legalization"




posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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Francis:
Christians must pray and work to make the Church “a welcoming home, a mother for all peoples and the source of rebirth for our world.”

www.catholicnewsagency.com...

“The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet,

and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls.

She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries.

The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.

Mother: Roman Catholic Church. Daughters: All christian churches based on temples of stone.

Cover of “Ghost BC” band. The name of the singer is Pope Emeritus, note that the band was formed in 2008, five years before Benedict XVI resigned:


Francis and the “mother of all peoples”



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

He is not the pope.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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cough,,cough,,and i quote u "based on temples of stone. "

Muslim pilgrims jostle for a chance to kiss the Black Stone;





Mecca (/ˈmɛkə/; Arabic: مكة‎, Makkah, pronounced [ˈmækkæ]), also ... "Mecca"


right,,




posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

One can only be a prostitute if it says it is from someone and is not. Muslims are not christians.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 10:09 PM
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see above.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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I have looked on the net but cannot find anything about it. What was the coffin of JPI and Paul VI like?

This is JPI's being carried. 12 men, perhaps it was a triple coffin with the 400 pound lead coffin inside.

www.gettyimages.com.au...

And these are of Paul VI, same shape, colour, carpet, different symbols.

www.gettyimages.com.au...

www.gettyimages.com.au...


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posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 12:14 AM
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I think that Paul VI was buried in a tripple coffin too, according to this website:

www.catholic-pages.com...

That being said, I don't think that he will literally walk out of the coffin. The world will already be in chaos during the 5th trumpet, when he appears, but that's just my interpretation.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 12:40 AM
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Different carpet for John Paul I. 4:57 min


Paul VI:

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posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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The ecumenism of John Paul II grows stronger near “his” return

Vatican partners with Islamic museum for unique exhibition
www.dw.de...

Berlin House of One: The first church-mosque-synagogue?
www.bbc.com...






THE KORAN DENIES THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
THE KORAN DENIES THAT JESUS ​​WAS KILLED.
THE KORAN DENIES THAT JESUS ​​RESURRECTED.
THE KORAN DENIES THAT JESUS IS GOD.

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