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posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 09:29 AM
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The Book of Ezekiel seems to be full of hints & traces that point to an ancient encounter between humanity and a superior, technologically advanced society. Ever since E. von Däniken and J. Blumrich wrote about UFOs in a biblical context, the visions of the prophet Ezekiel have increasingly become part of the ancient astronaut theory. The likeness of the glory of the lord comes to mind, which Ezekiel described in great detail and seems to be more reminiscent of a modern-day spacecraft than the throne of God. I have discussed and illustrated this episode extensively in my previous thread whereas the spacecraft description can also be found in the first chapter of the Book of Ezekiel.



However, this biblical book contains much more than just that, like for example: compound-like structures of great precision (Ez 40-46), deadly weapons of destruction (Ez 9:2, more info here), a man in "bronze", (Ez 40:3), multiple departures & arrivals of the lord with smoke & clouds (Ez 10:1-5, Ez 43:1-5), a ground crew organization (Ez 9:2, Ez 46:9-10) ... and much more that would fit perfectly well into an ancient visitation scenario IMO. Theologically speaking, such details are usually not relevant and the references found in most publications rather focus on the religious & metaphorical interpretation of what happened. However, many of the descriptions found throughout the book of Ezekiel are profoundly familiar to us today. For us, as a space age society, Ezekiel's observations make much more sense in a technological context. Especially when acknowledging that he actually 'saw' what he describes, instead of attributing twenty years of documented events solely to 'visions of God'.

So while a lot can be read about Ezekiel's spacecraft, the rest of the chapters usually don't get much attention, even though they perfectly tie in with a report about a technologically advanced humanoid civilization that visited us some 2.600 years ago with an agenda or mission to interact with humanity. In the 1970s, Blumrich did an excellent analysis of this situation based on the book of Ezekiel. Here's an excerpt that substantiates the notion that 'they' were in fact humans or at least 'appeared' as such:




The fact that is peculiar and exciting is that Ezekiel — despite his extraordinary talent for observation — finds nothing unusual about these men except the "destroying weapon." Not even the man in their midst impresses him with anything other than that he was "clothed in linen." If we add to this the fact that the commander, too, is always described simply as "man," it follows that all those related to the spaceship looked like humans.

Source: BIBLE TEXT AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY

The way in which Ezekiel describes his various meetings with these 'men' (including several tasks he is supposed to accomplish) suggests that 'they' were indeed on a mission. The extent of this mission as well as the purpose(s) are unclear, and perhaps Ezekiel's experience was just one episode of a more extensive plan reaching back to much earlier days in human history. But for this mission, those visitors clearly established a certain infrastructure, eg. a temple, which I'd like to look into more in detail ...


The Temple & Precision of Design

So whoever came down to Earth back in the day, had some sort of compound or base, perhaps even several of them. The 'wheeled' chariots or the likeness of the glory of the Lord, as Ezekiel often put it, flew in and out, landed and took off from there, multiple times. Ezekiel has been taken to this place in order to measure the exact dimensions and write them down:


Ezekiel 40:2-5

In visions of God he took me to the land of Israel and set me on a very high mountain, on whose south side were some buildings that looked like a city. 3 He took me there, and I saw a man whose appearance was like bronze; he was standing in the gateway with a linen cord and a measuring rod in his hand. 4 The man said to me, “Son of man, look carefully and listen closely and pay attention to everything I am going to show you, for that is why you have been brought here. Tell the people of Israel everything you see.”

The East Gate to the Outer Court

I saw a wall completely surrounding the temple area. The length of the measuring rod in the man’s hand was six long cubits,[a] each of which was a cubit and a handbreadth. He measured the wall; it was one measuring rod thick and one rod high
(...)


In order to illustrate what Ezekiel saw and described, I created a rendition of the temple as well as a map with scales and further references. I based these works on an open-source 3D model that I found in Trimble's 3D warehouse (thanks to user 'Sketch' for creating the base-model):

FULL SIZE



So why has Ezekiel been shown this area and why was he to report this to the people of Israel?
In Ezekiel 43:10-11, we can read the following:


"Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider its perfection, and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple — its arrangement, its exits and entrances — its whole design and all its regulations and laws. Write these down before them so that they may be faithful to its design and follow all its regulations."

/emphasis added/


Let them consider its perfection? It really seems as if this compound was built with advanced architectural features in mind. Personally, I have no doubt that this structure was closely related to the maintainance of the vehicles and the operations they conducted throughout their mission on Earth. I could well imagine that the design itself even incorporates numerical relations or other features that might substantiate this interpretation ... however, IMO the layout as such, seems already sufficiently reminiscent of a modern compound serving technical & organizational purposes instead of religous ones.

Continues in next post ...
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posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 09:29 AM
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Cherubim & Seraphim (continued)

Throughout the passages in Ezekiel's book, and generally in the bible, we often encounter the so-called Cherubim or Seraphim. Most interpretations refer to them being angels or winged beings. Some have 4 wings, others supposedly 6 wings. But Ezekiel uses this term frequently to describe those parts of The Throne of God that have wheels and wings, parts that create the sound of rushing waters and are used to lift the throne into the air. In this context, wouldn't it seem more appropriate to compare them to aircraft-engines? The propulsion system of an Osprey comes to mind and it would seem they eerily resemble what Ezekiel describes in his reports.


When considering that cherubim are not always referred to as 'engines' in the rest of the bible, I still think that they generally describe devices of some sort, for which people of the time didn't have the required terms matching the meaning of what they had in mind. Throughout the whole book of Ezekiel, though, the term is consistently used to describe the propulsion units of the craft he saw.


Palmtrees & Cherubim


One excpetion to the above is that Cherubim also appear in the description of the temple interior (Ez 41:17-19) as decorative elements on the walls - with palmtrees, see (1) - and in the area of the most holy place. I'm unsure as to how this aspect fits into the whole scenario described by Ezekiel. But when thinking about it, perhaps he saw different versions of what we would call a Mission Badge or mission logos, see (2). I do admit that this is speculative, but don't we - ourselves - also use decals and logos when embarking on important missions?


Conclusion

Based on the above-mentioned references, I really tend to believe that an encounter with technologically advanced visitors (whoever, from whereever) indeed took place. However, if Ezekiel was such an avid observer, it's hard to believe he didn't make any drawings of what he saw. They'd certainly be helpful to cast away last doubts and they'd probably be stored somewhere in the Vatican. But then again: let's not forget that, in most religions, any direct depictions of the Lord or God are forbidden. If it were not, then perhaps we'd recognize that 'they' were more like us than we think, although very much god-like, with all their technological capabilities at the time ...

I hope you enjoyed this overview, and further, that I managed to get you interested in some of the amazing details that can be found in the book of Ezekiel! Thanks a lot for reading up to this point!


Sources:
(1) The Spaceships of Ezekiel
(2) The Book of Ezekiel
(3) en.wikipedia.org...
(4) en.wikipedia.org...
(5) www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com...
(6) www.youtube.com...

Disclaimer: all images used in this thread are either public domain, creative commons or own works
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posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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interesting thread indeed.

I have come across all the information before, but it is good to see the extra bits you have added. Ezekiel's Temple is very impressive.

The Bronze Man appears throughout the visions of the OT Prophets and Christ is described almost exactly with the same appearance as Ezekiel's vision in St John's vision. It is always in white robes with a sash.

Regarding the Temple, it was built originally to house The Ark and the 2nd Temple housed The Spirit of The Most High. It is The House of God and it is meant to be the earthly version of The Most High's Alter in the dimension that we call Heaven. TORAH Torah is plural. It is as above so below.

I think honestly that we can not compare what Ezekiel saw to our 21st century earthly tech. It is not of this dimension and does not have to abide by the laws of our physical dimension.

Ezekiel had no reference point to describe what he saw and made the best use of the imagery available to him.

You are right though. Whatever Ezekiel did see might as well be a mind blowing spacecraft to us. Certainly those visions with those beings are extra terrestrial.

The Almighty always used the expression "Let Us go down..." and see what these humans are up to.

I don't think The Heavenly Host visit us through physically travelling here. I think they are outside of this physical universe matrix. There is no distance. They just have to pluck the visionary up into their sphere or descend into our sphere. Distance has no meaning even inter-dimensionally.

We only have to consider how many amazingly varied and different ways The Most High revealed Himself to people; as a burning bush, visiting angels (messengers) and the classic Ezekiel descent of The Chariot.

Do you know about Merkabah, OP?



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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i myself envision the 'wheel within a wheel' as very much like the global project in the movie 'Contact


Jody Foster character went through a wormhole & spent close to 30 minutes in another time frame, environment... but the engineers on earth saw only the several second 'drop' of the Wheel-within-a-Wheel transport device



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 10:13 AM
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Yep, I've heard about it and it neatly relates to this OP. Interestingly, some of the early concepts like Kabbalah also reference seraphim, in terms of 'burning angels':


According to the Kabbalistic explanation, the Seraphim ("burning" angels) in Beriah (divine understanding) realise their distance from the absolute divinity of Atziluth. Their call, "Holy", repeated three times, means removed or separated. This causes their "burning up" continual self-nullification, ascending to God and returning to their place. Their understanding realises instead that God's true purpose (glory) for creation is with lowly man.

Source Link

When reading the above, I am indeed reminded of Ezekiel's vision. And when further considering that these descriptions are derived from our earliest books & ancient records, the impact & importance of these events for the people at the time can't be called into question. Whether those encounters were spiritual or technological in nature is almost secondary, whereas I do believe almost everything points to an advanced society having been in contact with us.

P.S.: Thanks for adding some extra info to this thread ... !



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 10:15 AM
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St Udio
reply to post by Revolution9
 


i myself envision the 'wheel within a wheel' as very much like the global project in the movie 'Contact


Jody Foster character went through a wormhole & spent close to 30 minutes in another time frame, environment... but the engineers on earth saw only the several second 'drop' of the Wheel-within-a-Wheel transport device


I will have to watch that film. Great idea for a Sunday afternoon. Thank you. I will look out for what you describe.



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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jeep3r
reply to post by Revolution9
 


Yep, I've heard about it and it neatly relates to this OP. Interestingly, some of the early concepts like Kabbalah also reference seraphim, in terms of 'burning angels':


According to the Kabbalistic explanation, the Seraphim ("burning" angels) in Beriah (divine understanding) realise their distance from the absolute divinity of Atziluth. Their call, "Holy", repeated three times, means removed or separated. This causes their "burning up" continual self-nullification, ascending to God and returning to their place. Their understanding realises instead that God's true purpose (glory) for creation is with lowly man.

Source Link

When reading the above, I am indeed reminded of Ezekiel's vision. And when further considering that these descriptions are derived from our earliest books & ancient records, the impact & importance of these events for the people at the time can't be called into question. Whether those encounters were spiritual or technological in nature is almost secondary, whereas I do believe almost everything points to an advanced society having been in contact with us.

P.S.: Thanks for adding some extra info to this thread ... !



You're welcome. Yes, I am in agreement with you. I wish we could see beyond the veil a little more. It's very frustrating being tantalised so much. Lucky ol' Ezekiel.

Let's keep on studying and pushing at the walls of this dimension. Ya never know, we might yet make some headway in our perception and visionary experience.



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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Hey, just to add a bit more info on some things I have noted in my crazy musings about Scripture.

Remember what Jesus said about "Let your yes be YES and your no be NO"? Well that is pointing to the High Priest of The Ark's divinatory authority to ask questions of The LORD through Urim and Thummin that were on his breast plate. In the O.T The LORD gave yes and no answers to the High Priest. The only non High Priest to ask a question directly in the O.T was David.

Also, consider how digital code works. It is really YES and NO, 1s and 0s, binary.

It seems to me like after the Judgement it will be all about YES and NO. My impression is that we will co exist in two dimensions of an endless running cosmic program of sorts. Like a binary code of those who want to be in The Kingdom and those who cannot accept the authority of the Creator.

It says in the N.T that the Kingdom dwellers will be able to see those who live outside and those who live outside will be very tormented with their choice and be able to see the Kingdom, but not enter it. It appears once the bridge is separated it will be separated forever. Is this something to do with the new earth and Heaven dimension being run like a binary code? Just a way out theory I have been entertaining.

Will that be The Creator's way of dealing with the duality of our current earth and Heaven where there is no separation of positive and negative; where both must reside in the same space and clash in a very destructive way?

Is the New Earth and Heaven God's digital revolution in Creation where the old analogue world is phased out and a smooth running, every body got to go where they wanted after sampling the world of both, perfect code of Creation is established to run eternally?

It is one way of dealing with free will is it not?
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posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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Revolution9
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Remember what Jesus said about "Let your yes be YES and your no be NO"? Well that is pointing to the High Priest of The Ark's divinatory authority to ask questions of The LORD through Urim and Thummin that were on his breast plate. In the O.T The LORD gave yes and no answers to the High Priest. The only non High Priest to ask a question directly in the O.T was David.

Also, consider how digital code works. It is really YES and NO, 1s and 0s, binary.


That binary code reference is interesting, to say the least. And to be honest, I believe the key to reinterpreting the bible can be found in exactly those details.

But getting back to Ezekiel: isn't it really strange that he seems to be interacting with humans or human-like beings? Wouldn't he have described these 'men' as looking substantially different if they were, in fact, aliens with a completely different anatomy - especially when taking into account the detailed description of the spacecraft, the temple and the men in 'bronze' and 'linen'? He would certainly have given special attention to their appearance, if he'd been confronted with some unknown intelligent species, right?

And if this is true, then these 'men' from that period of time could still be among us today without us noticing! That's another interesting aspect of the story, IMO. Personally, though, I have no doubts that those visitors back then originated from a technologically advanced civilization. The question is who they were, where they came from and what they wanted.

By the way: thanks again for your contribution, Revolution9 ... !



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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jeep3r

Revolution9
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Remember what Jesus said about "Let your yes be YES and your no be NO"? Well that is pointing to the High Priest of The Ark's divinatory authority to ask questions of The LORD through Urim and Thummin that were on his breast plate. In the O.T The LORD gave yes and no answers to the High Priest. The only non High Priest to ask a question directly in the O.T was David.

Also, consider how digital code works. It is really YES and NO, 1s and 0s, binary.


That binary code reference is interesting, to say the least. And to be honest, I believe the key to reinterpreting the bible can be found in exactly those details.

But getting back to Ezekiel: isn't it really strange that he seems to be interacting with humans or human-like beings? Wouldn't he have described these 'men' as looking substantially different if they were, in fact, aliens with a completely different anatomy - especially when taking into account the detailed description of the spacecraft, the temple and the men in 'bronze' and 'linen'? He would certainly have given special attention to their appearance, if he'd been confronted with some unknown intelligent species, right?

And if this is true, then these 'men' from that period of time could still be among us today without us noticing! That's another interesting aspect of the story, IMO. Personally, though, I have no doubts that those visitors back then originated from a technologically advanced civilization. The question is who they were, where they came from and what they wanted.

By the way: thanks again for your contribution, Revolution9 ... !



I really do believe they are The Creator's Heaven Beings. In Genesis it said that He made man in His own image. I just go on that really.

Yes, I believe they could walk among us.

Those who The Creator chose (the ones who chose Him, too) it seems He let them see some of what is in in the Heavenly dimension. They were messengers. He chose those people because they would walk even into death to do what He needed them to do. They were very clean people indeed. May be through cleanliness we could gain visionary experience of some description?

If we are to believe any or all those visionary experiences and miracles that completely disregarded the laws of physics and our physical universe I think we need to consider that The BOSS can alter reality as easy as a programmer can change the code of a program. That's just a handy metaphor.

These beings are all that visionaries have witnessed; The Light of The Spirit of GOD that no human eyes can see, the Seraphim and Cherubim, The Angels, 24 elders and of course the Bronze being(s).

I guess we can only speculate with the limited witnesses that we have. They are of course those people like Ezekiel, Elijah and Daniel. They reported their experiences. Their experiences WERE the Messages to be recorded for all the centuries to follow.



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Great thread, and one I have heavy interest in. As in the stories, "made in our image" makes sense, Many of the clues to these points are there, we just need to seek them, and just like in the book of Enoch, there are many, many clues. Advanced beings, human or not would overwhelm the mind of someone who's elite level of travel is a chariot and horse, not an advanced aircraft, we would see the same thing completely different, way different and describe it in a seriously opposite context. The more of these "clues" I find, the more I want, and this should be as any open minded human, I will not let religion cloud my understanding of the unknown and the quest for the real truth, the search continues....



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 04:00 PM
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How can anyone who is a logical thinker, and is of intelligent mind ever consider anything other than what Ezekiel appears to be -- that we are NOT alone in this universe!

It boggles my mind that anyone would even try to write the visions of Ezekiel off as some sort of Godly created illusion, or that Ezekiel was hallucinating.

Frankly, I am surprised that the book of Ezekiel even made it into the Bible and was not dumped off as part of the gnostic texts for fear of man finding out too much information about his origins or our distant relatives.



posted on Dec, 8 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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teslahowitzer
(...) and just like in the book of Enoch, there are many, many clues. Advanced beings, human or not would overwhelm the mind of someone who's elite level of travel is a chariot and horse, not an advanced aircraft, we would see the same thing completely different, way different and describe it in a seriously opposite context.

Thanks for your input! I'm with you concerning the many clues you mention ...

When reading the book of Ezekiel (and the bible in general) with today's understanding of technology, it starts making sense. And I mean 'complete' sense in terms of our contact back then with another, more advanced civilization. With that in mind, it should be possible to clarify some of the questions with regard to the purpose of their mission using other religious sources & ancient records.

This will be very interesting, because at some point, they obviously experienced problems or complications. Things went wrong and they needed to sort things out, whereas their overall intentions were certainly benevolent.

There are many passages referring to those problems, an example can be found here:


Ezekiel 5:5-6

This is what the Sovereign Lord says: This is Jerusalem, which I have set in the center of the nations, with countries all around her. Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees more than the nations and countries around her. She has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees.

/emphasis added/



posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 02:31 AM
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phantomjack
Frankly, I am surprised that the book of Ezekiel even made it into the Bible and was not dumped off as part of the gnostic texts for fear of man finding out too much information about his origins or our distant relatives.

That surprises me, too ... the references in that book explicitly describe technologically advanced 'visitors'. When considering that similar references can also be found in other parts of the bible, I believe it's safe to say that our own development was strongly linked to their activities here on Earth.

I'm not quite sure, though, about which timeline we're actually speaking, but those encounters that started 592 B.C. were probably just a tiny fraction of the whole mission, which might even reach back hundreds or thousands of years earlier.



posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 11:55 AM
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jeep3r

phantomjack
Frankly, I am surprised that the book of Ezekiel even made it into the Bible and was not dumped off as part of the gnostic texts for fear of man finding out too much information about his origins or our distant relatives.

That surprises me, too ... the references in that book explicitly describe technologically advanced 'visitors'. When considering that similar references can also be found in other parts of the bible, I believe it's safe to say that our own development was strongly linked to their activities here on Earth.

I'm not quite sure, though, about which timeline we're actually speaking, but those encounters that started 592 B.C. were probably just a tiny fraction of the whole mission, which might even reach back hundreds or thousands of years earlier.


What I find interesting as a result of your post is that there are certain religious laws that prohibit the mere study or speaking of the events depicted in Ezekiel.

Why? Its a "Don't look behind the curtain" type mentality that fear of people finding the truth is abundant.



posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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On the other hand, Ezekiel might have just been hallucinating like a crazy or drugged up person and was atypically able to describe his hallucination in such great detail that it reads like a real thing happened to him.

On the scale of things that can be believed as true, a single eyewitness account is at the very bottom, no matter how people try to interpret it an add good artwork.



posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 12:18 PM
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Blue Shift
On the other hand, Ezekiel might have just been hallucinating like a crazy or drugged up person and was atypically able to describe his hallucination in such great detail that it reads like a real thing happened to him.

On the scale of things that can be believed as true, a single eyewitness account is at the very bottom, no matter how people try to interpret it an add good artwork.


It is one explanation, but these visions were not just confined to Ezekiel's experience. Ezekiel, Jacob, Moses, Daniel, Jesus and His Disciples and St Paul all had similar visions. St John describes the exact same bronze looking Figure in The Revelation as in Ezekiel.

I really think the hallucination theory is not the answer. Deliberate imagery would be a better candidate if we don't want to believe that these experiences of other beings really happened.

I believe that they did happen to some extent and that the Bible is a record of these Beings interaction with us through the Covenant with Abraham and The New Covenant.



posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 04:55 PM
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phantomjack
What I find interesting as a result of your post is that there are certain religious laws that prohibit the mere study or speaking of the events depicted in Ezekiel.

Why? Its a "Don't look behind the curtain" type mentality that fear of people finding the truth is abundant.


It does sound like an ancient cover-up in terms of 'No depictions of the Lord'. It could have been a religious dogma in order to control people and have power over them.

On the other hand, it might also have been a regulation by the visitors themselves, in order to conceal their true origins and/or operations. I could think of a variety of reasons 'why' they might have wanted to do that.
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posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 05:55 PM
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Revolution9
It is one explanation, but these visions were not just confined to Ezekiel's experience. Ezekiel, Jacob, Moses, Daniel, Jesus and His Disciples and St Paul all had similar visions. St John describes the exact same bronze looking Figure in The Revelation as in Ezekiel.

Unfortunately, it's impossible do completely discount that they were drawing from the same sources for their imagery. Stories or images or writings. The potential for social contamination is extremely high.



posted on Dec, 9 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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All through history there have been signs of advanced contact on earth, it is in every culture, religion and continent. There are those whom choose to be blinded by man's reasoning of these historical facts, and this is just a complete denial. Sumarian, the oldest known true writings found on earth tell of the story of gods and powerful entities that predate any bible writings and frankly parallel the story of genesis. The clues are everywhere, the stories from half a world away have a crapload of similar storylines and they all point to superior entities that could do magic at no effort. Mass halusination is just a level of juvenile denial as even an omnipotent being handed you an independent mind and free will, therefore use it for more than a hatrack. Religous laws? really, "you can not read this" sounds like a muslim cleric scolding a 10 year old and frankly should directly insult any non moron. The missing books of the bible tell more than most think, but before you judge anyone, read the books of Enoch, and tell yourself he was on cheap crack.....





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