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posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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This is one of my favorite quotes from Ghostbusters

As nearly everyone alive should know, the guys were tasked
by "Gozer the Gozerian" a powerful metaphysical being,
to 'choose the form of their destruction'. And of course
the form chosen was "the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man"
as Ray thought that Stay-Puft would never hurt him.

This is of course a thread about Alexander's and Vallee's
precognitive sentient phenomena type sightings / events
again. I'm only referring to the 5% unexplained sightings
and not the great bulk of misidentifications of venus, the
ISS, actual military aircraft, etc.

I'd just like to give a voice to the (presumable) frustration
that these beings (if beings) or partially sentient phenomenon
must feel, that they / it "can't win". For purposes of discussion
let's call "they" / "it" the "PSP Entity" or PSPE for short.

Now going back untold thousands of years, let's say the PSP
Entity just wanted to say 'hello' to these strange Earth mammals;
so it scans the mind of the natives and it senses vague fear-laden
pictures of some sky daddy or other archetypal images such as
winged humans. Way back in human history there are tons of
artwork where humans are drawn with animal body part motifs.
Now why these pictures were drawn is anybody's guess.. there
is of course the AA hypothesis and the spiritual drug hypothesis
and all sorts of hypothesis as to why these pictures were drawn
this way. But I don't care the reason for purposes of this post.

The long and the short of it, is that presumably the PSPE took
some of these images, and 'appeared' either mentally/spiritually
or even sometimes 'physically' in these forms.. to attempt to
appear in a form which the human mammals could deal with.
This is of course the same concept as in the movie "Contact".
This also brings up a common motif, that being that ones
"ancestors" are thought to appear to the Earth mammals
from way back.. but I think it's plain that these 'ancestors'
were another manifestation of the PSPE. It seems that
ancestor worship is less common these days, so far few
people see 'ancestors' now.

I think that increasingly 'beings' are no longer the primary
choice of the PSPE, as even a 'bunny rabbit', if it appeared,
would be claimed to be 'the Devil / Satan / etc'.

Beings are out. So there seem to be far fewer 'being sightings',
except in the form of 'aliens'. More people seem to be more open
to the concept of 'aliens' these days.. so we see more aliens and
fewer 'faeries' 'angels' 'demons' etc.

Now Mystery Airships's are an interesting
thing to study. Apparently 'UFO airships' were seen right about the time that early airship
research was being done, but before airships were in common use.

Seems like the PSPE went "ah.. there are 3 people in the world open to the
idea of airships.. lets appear in/as those". It seems the PSPE either knows
ahead of time, or at least has access to the first humans thinking about
something before it really catches on.

Of course after "Roswell" there were all these saucer sightings.. people
were open to seeing 'saucers' for whatever reason, so they saw saucers.

Now what utterly fascinates me are some sightings documented in the
book, Encounters with Star People. In these sightings balls of light are
observed forming into a well-defined UFO ship or a well-defined UFO
ship splits into balls of light. This is 'smoking gun' to me. That is of
course, if you don't think that the witnesses are not deluded / liars.

On that note, I'm thinking that there are some reports from 1989-1990
from the Netherlands which follow this pattern of ball light / solid
ufo's; but I haven't found links for those yet. But those Nato Netherland
sightings that I have found links for, are very compelling; when something
shows up on radar and F-16's are scrambled and get momentary locks
on it-- and there are thousands of witnesses; that's pretty compelling.
Here's a short Youtube on that Brussels UFOs.

To wrap this up, I really wonder if the PSPE would gladly 'land on the
Whitehouse Lawn' and let us get to know it/them, if only we could,
as a people, settle on a form that we can live with, without spending
50 year making movies about shooting it down, blowing it up, worshiping
it as 'God', hating it as 'the Devil' and totally freaking out about it.

Maybe if we all settle on it having a from of my Little Pony or something,
it/they will show up and be sociable, and all this human-induced melodrama
can finally be over.

Now, I might be wrong on this point, but the Triangle UFO phenomenon
feels different somehow.. but who knows.. maybe there are 2 or 3
explanations and not just the PSP explanation.

KPB




posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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KellyPrettyBear
This is one of my favorite quotes from Ghostbusters

As nearly everyone alive should know, the guys were tasked
by "Gozer the Gozerian" a powerful metaphysical being,
to 'choose the form of their destruction'. And of course
the form chosen was "the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man"
as Ray thought that Stay-Puft would never hurt him.



I think this applies in politics.
Except, the problem is that people select a destroyer that is supposed to hurt the other guy.
You think Obama has a sailor hat?

As far as the form of our fears goes, it is what the old world storytellers would have called a 'glamour'.

A creature that takes the form of our fears in order to paralyze us and feed off of it.
This has basis in myth and fables.
It may also have anecdotal truth.

The alien is purported to imprint you with a memory of something that you will remember as natural. An owl,a deer, a rabbit. But they all seem to be 4 feet tall with big eyes.

In deeper study, the alien seems to adopt a fear form when the individual cannot be controlled.

Craft may be a manifestation designed to play on our fears but even in medieval times craft were seen in the sky shaped like crosses and spheres having aerial battle. Not much different from what we see every day in the sky crosses-airplanes with wings. So maybe the craft is just form follows function.

I like the inro to the topic.
I always thought of "Ghost Busters" as programming and parody.



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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Thanks for the response. Your response is a somewhat traditional
occult point of view. I'm not saying that you are right or wrong.

But in my own case at least, I'm not 'afraid' of 'spiritual entities'.
They are in fact, afraid of me. Invite me to any 'channeling party'
or the like and the whole thing stops in it's tracks.

I'd also like to say, that do we always have to treat the human
archetypal unconscious as 'evil'. ? Can't we manifest something
more my little ponyish?

Can humans only create evil, hate and destruction?

KPB



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by badgerprints
 


Thanks for the response. Your response is a somewhat traditional
occult point of view. I'm not saying that you are right or wrong.

But in my own case at least, I'm not 'afraid' of 'spiritual entities'.
They are in fact, afraid of me. Invite me to any 'channeling party'
or the like and the whole thing stops in it's tracks.

I'd also like to say, that do we always have to treat the human
archetypal unconscious as 'evil'. ? Can't we manifest something
more my little ponyish?

Can humans only create evil, hate and destruction?

KPB



My traditional "occult" point of view is simply what I've come across. I'm not asserting as to it's veracity.

Treat the human archetypal unconscious as evil? I think the unconscious is all about understanding the unknown?
People fear the unknown and fear evokes thoughts of evil. I think it's a reaction. Not really a decision.

Can humans only create evil hate and destruction?

In my experience the evil, hate and destruction are the exception. Unfortunately, we've become so numb that we don't see all of the good, beauty and love that our lives have to offer.
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posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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I personally think this has to do with what party, what poison or medicine you vote for.



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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In my experience the evil, hate and destruction are the exception. Unfortunately, we've become so numb that we don't see all of the good, beauty and love that our lives have to offer.


Why are most people who are abducted 'anally probed' and 'experimented upon'
for no reason? Yes, you yourself spoke about the fear mechanism. But where is
that 'good beauty and love' during abductions.

I've never once been abducted by my little ponies (I would love to meet them)
and be hugged, loved and named George. And fed sweets and go on pony
rides.

Now I know there are a few people like Unity99, but she's the only person
of her type that I've come across in 52 years.. I know more must be out
there.. but they seem to be a rare bird.

KPB



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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There is. Its not all bad.

Levels and layers in a steep learning curve all the way up through infinite progression, where tasks delegated down to grow people up.

So the mid management groups may still have battles, may still be in the duality. True Higher Ups are beyond this and are more like Angel Ets and even Higher. They don't battle, they would merely show up, if they did physically in this system it would be like a Light many times greater than the sun that would make the sun appear as a candle flame, and the only question would be, could you stand in that frequency? The rest would (as magnetics or force, only in this case its like unto like not the opposites) be compelled backward. There is no fighting. You either can stand in that frequency or not. They can clean people up who are closer and raise their frequency.

Love is Love. Raise to the frequency. When the thought that left the mind returns through experience to that frequency, it can go home.

Now the mid management group is where I shake my fists at the sky numerously. But Im not a renegade either. I have total love and respect for all who are trying to do the right thing even if I don't think they are, and believe Love can step in and create a test for them where the task they think they are doing isn't accomplished, but an illusion is there instead, if what they're doing is wrong.

In this entire area can be seen: guides, guardian angels, guidance from past, present and future family groups, even loved ones who passed over, ETs, Ets with different ideas of how to do things, clean ups, round ups, prison wardens or universal maintenance workers, MIB, cosmic police who snag renegades or intercept bad abductions, they don't have permission to deal with those who haven't fallen low enough to be heading that way for a time soul wise. Intercepts happen a great deal.

For souls who are coasting through life, not on task, possibly compromising their grade level, the mid management group could be mean. They can take you out behind the shed, give you a scare.

They can scare you out of realms or areas you're not supposed to look to strongly in anyway, some things are a part of our individual tests. Some of us are big mouths too, if we find out anything.

So they can set up some scarey things at the door. They're not exactly angels though you could view some of these as angels.

They don't always arrange good things for earth, so I really question some of them alot because they're not off the hook, and the means don't justify the ends, and if they were truly Higher Ups they would never harm. They would only be Love, PERIOD.

But they're still people, the ones that aren't AI, and they're striving to become Higher Ups, most of them anyway, and they have to eventually whether they like it or not, their own souls don't want to be left behind, but will push eventually for progression for growth is built into all energies, so one bottoms out eventually, and pushes off the other way.

Love is the answer, and they're in tests too.

Some of the medical checkups are cures, DNA upgrades, removing cancer, piecing us together.

People don't understand what's happening.



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 04:51 PM
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This was one of my favorite Sleeper threads, before he seemed to get a little more pat in his answers, maybe humor armour but also, a little more injections of fear, judgements, and I thought it was the military jumping in and telling him, nope you got to give them the ET equivalent of hellsfire/shredders an all of that, in his big thread. Like a more recent post he made somewhere about renegades sticking to rotten souls like flies.

That is NOT Family and Family is God/Goodness, or right under That infinite Soul and is NOT mean, but long suffering waiting for all of us.

We're to judge no one and intercede for all, not withstanding that as humans, being slap happy with our words occasionally does happen so don't want to judge him either. Instead I always this military presence in his life rather than him....That is my opinion on it anyway. Have lots of overall respect for him.

But this thread, really really wonderment! I paced around frantically and it took ages to get through each page because it was stirring pots inside me.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

These posts are pretty good. Overview what we're in.

Earth is really spirit too, everything is. I've known this for some time, its like a special arrangement for a school or training material, televised almost, within the spirit realms, its all astral or spirit.

Bodies are just souls too, with a kind of mud husk on them, which is just energy waves from the metaphoric tv set, screen.

Its all spirit.



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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KellyPrettyBear
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In my experience the evil, hate and destruction are the exception. Unfortunately, we've become so numb that we don't see all of the good, beauty and love that our lives have to offer.


Why are most people who are abducted 'anally probed' and 'experimented upon'
for no reason? Yes, you yourself spoke about the fear mechanism. But where is
that 'good beauty and love' during abductions.

I've never once been abducted by my little ponies (I would love to meet them)
and be hugged, loved and named George. And fed sweets and go on pony
rides.

Now I know there are a few people like Unity99, but she's the only person
of her type that I've come across in 52 years.. I know more must be out
there.. but they seem to be a rare bird.

KPB


I really can't give you a good answer.
My little ponies don't have the manual dexterity to perform an anal probe.

As far as recognizing the good stuff in life....I didn't mean it would accompany an alien abduction.

To be fair.
They do seem to be wiping out memories of the bad stuff in most of their victims...er guests.

There are people who have had 'good' experiences with aliens but I think they are quite the exception.

Of course, all of this is conjecture.
Could be that our feelings, outlook and subconscious fears could be absolutely immaterial to the actual events that befall us.





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