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AngryCymraeg
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727Sky
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There was a disturbing post by a S. African sometime ago (last year?) that said the ANC or some other group was waiting for his death and then there would be something called the night of the long knives (machetes) against the whites.. I tried to find the thread but it did not pop up in the search feature.... maybe someone else would have better luck. Let us hope that thread proves wrong.
Because they're barbarians.
And who, exactly, would these 'barbarians' be?
What benefit is there in playing dumb?
AngryCymraeg
TSOM87
AngryCymraeg
He made the world a better place.
I have no doubt he was a great man to his people and had high intentions for us all but he didn't make the world a better place. He with the help of others gave the black man of South Africa the vote and he changed South African politics which is a great thing for South Africa.
I beg to differ. South Africa could, very easily, have torn itself to pieces in a horribly vicious civil war. The fact that it did not was almost entire down to Mandela.
TSOM87
AngryCymraeg
TSOM87
AngryCymraeg
He made the world a better place.
I have no doubt he was a great man to his people and had high intentions for us all but he didn't make the world a better place. He with the help of others gave the black man of South Africa the vote and he changed South African politics which is a great thing for South Africa.
I beg to differ. South Africa could, very easily, have torn itself to pieces in a horribly vicious civil war. The fact that it did not was almost entire down to Mandela.
Could have have done. Some White South Africans would argue that is happening to them right now in South Africa.
South Africa did change! IMO..only south Africa.
AngryCymraeg
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727Sky
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
There was a disturbing post by a S. African sometime ago (last year?) that said the ANC or some other group was waiting for his death and then there would be something called the night of the long knives (machetes) against the whites.. I tried to find the thread but it did not pop up in the search feature.... maybe someone else would have better luck. Let us hope that thread proves wrong.
Because they're barbarians.
And who, exactly, would these 'barbarians' be?
What benefit is there in playing dumb?
Oh, I was just waiting for you to condemn yourself out of your own mouth. But you've done that anyway, so no worries!
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727Sky
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
There was a disturbing post by a S. African sometime ago (last year?) that said the ANC or some other group was waiting for his death and then there would be something called the night of the long knives (machetes) against the whites.. I tried to find the thread but it did not pop up in the search feature.... maybe someone else would have better luck. Let us hope that thread proves wrong.
Because they're barbarians.
And who, exactly, would these 'barbarians' be?
What benefit is there in playing dumb?
Oh, I was just waiting for you to condemn yourself out of your own mouth. But you've done that anyway, so no worries!
Leaps. Leaps.
727Sky
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
There was a disturbing post by a S. African sometime ago (last year?) that said the ANC or some other group was waiting for his death and then there would be something called the night of the long knives (machetes) against the whites.. I tried to find the thread but it did not pop up in the search feature.... maybe someone else would have better luck. Let us hope that thread proves wrong.
AngryCymraeg
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727Sky
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
There was a disturbing post by a S. African sometime ago (last year?) that said the ANC or some other group was waiting for his death and then there would be something called the night of the long knives (machetes) against the whites.. I tried to find the thread but it did not pop up in the search feature.... maybe someone else would have better luck. Let us hope that thread proves wrong.
Because they're barbarians.
And who, exactly, would these 'barbarians' be?
What benefit is there in playing dumb?
Oh, I was just waiting for you to condemn yourself out of your own mouth. But you've done that anyway, so no worries!
Leaps. Leaps.
Not sure what you meant by that, but then what can I expect from someone who called black South Africans 'Barbarians'. Shame on you.
Here is a brief sampling of the mountainous record documenting Mandela’s long, conspiratorial role in the South African Communist Party: • Among the evidence uncovered recently by Prof. Ellis are the official minutes of a secret 1982 SACP meeting at which veteran Party leader John Pule Motshabi explains to the comrades that Mandela has been a (secret) SACP member for two decades; • Rowley Israel Arenstein, a lawyer and leading SACP member since the 1930s, said that Mandela was chosen by the SACP to create Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK), and Mandela was the SACP’s main instrument in “hijacking” the ANC and marginalizing its longtime leader and president Albert Lithuli, an opponent of the SACP’s program of “liberation” through armed struggle. • During the Rivonia Trial (October 1963-June 1964), Bruno Motolo, a black member of SACP, ANC and MK, provided devastating testimony of Mandela’s involvement in all three groups. Despite death threats, he later provided even more details in his memoir, Umkhonto we Sizwe: The Road to the Left; • Other prominent SACP members that have publicly identified Mandela as a fellow Communist include Paul Trewhela,3 Joe Matthews, Hilda Bernstein and Brian Bunting; • Paul Trewhela, an SACP member who was imprisoned (1964-1967) for his communist activities, and more recently assisted Prof. Ellis in his research in the archives of the Stasi (the KGB’s East German subsidiary), has said: “Mandela was indeed a member of the Central Committee of the South African Communist Party.” • During the Rivonia Trial, more than 10 documents in Mandela’s handwriting were introduced into evidence, totaling hundreds of pages. One, entitled, “How to be a good communist,” stated: “Under communist rule, South Africa will become a land of milk and honey… In our country the struggle of the oppressed masses is led by the South African Communist Party and inspired by its policies.” He also wrote: “The people of South Africa, led by the South African Communist Party, will destroy capitalist society and build in its place socialism.” • Mandela’s Rivonia documents also declared that “traitors and informers should be ruthlessly eliminated,” and he recommended “cutting off their noses” — among other barbarities — a tactic he had adopted from Algeria’s communist FLN terrorists and which he put into practice by MK; • Mandela did not deny writing the damning material, but merely attempted to explain it away by claiming they were notes he had taken down for study purposes; • A Rivonia trial surprise witness was Gerard Ludi, a top SACP member who was actually an infiltrator, Agent Q-018, for the Special Branch of the South African Police. Ludi provided detailed incriminatory evidence on the SACP’s leadership and illegal activities. He identified Mandela as “a top man in the central committee of the underground communist party.” Subsequent revelations have proven the reliability of Ludi’s testimony.
chiefsmom
How sad.
To lose one of the few great men left in this world.
On to a better place.
Spookybelle
chiefsmom
How sad.
To lose one of the few great men left in this world.
On to a better place.
He was a communist terrorist. How can you guys think he was a great man?
His ANC were responsible for hundreds of killings.
AngryCymraeg
Spookybelle
chiefsmom
How sad.
To lose one of the few great men left in this world.
On to a better place.
He was a communist terrorist. How can you guys think he was a great man?
His ANC were responsible for hundreds of killings.
(Facepalm)
Because he stopped a civil war. Because he prevented a backlash against the Boers. Because he kept a nation together and moving forwards. Because he gave people hope instead of despair. Because he forgave the scum who used to run his country. Will that do? Or do you have some more ignorant comments to throw against the wall in the vain hope that they'll stick?
(a) the preparation, manufacture and use of explosives—for the purpose of committing acts of violence and destruction in the aforesaid Republic, (the preparation and manufacture of explosives, according to evidence submitted, included 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminum powder and a ton of black powder);
(ii) Further acts of violence and destruction, (this includes 193 counts of terrorism committed between 1961 and 1963);
FlyersFan
His life was a hardship but also inspirational for many.
He's been sick a long while now. And he had to put up with his ex-wife and her antics.
He's earned his rest. He's in a better place.
Spookybelle
AngryCymraeg
Spookybelle
chiefsmom
How sad.
To lose one of the few great men left in this world.
On to a better place.
He was a communist terrorist. How can you guys think he was a great man?
His ANC were responsible for hundreds of killings.
(Facepalm)
Because he stopped a civil war. Because he prevented a backlash against the Boers. Because he kept a nation together and moving forwards. Because he gave people hope instead of despair. Because he forgave the scum who used to run his country. Will that do? Or do you have some more ignorant comments to throw against the wall in the vain hope that they'll stick?
You have absolutely no idea what your talking about.
He was leading the MK, the militant aspect of the ANC and conducted bombings against such civilian targets such as railway stations and post offices killing many innocent people, including black women and children, who had nothing to do with the government.
There was more black on black violence during apartheid than white on black violence and this was led by Mandela even after he was sentenced to prison.
Here's some of the charges which he never disputed.
(a) the preparation, manufacture and use of explosives—for the purpose of committing acts of violence and destruction in the aforesaid Republic, (the preparation and manufacture of explosives, according to evidence submitted, included 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminum powder and a ton of black powder);
(ii) Further acts of violence and destruction, (this includes 193 counts of terrorism committed between 1961 and 1963);
plaintruthmagazine.blogspot.com...
I suppose you also support al-Qaeda and believe the people on 9/11 deserved to die don't you?