Nelson Mandela has died

Legit ROFLMAO!!!!!

Someone, ANYONE....ANYONE...what is the difference between Mandela fighting a corrupt government and YOU vowing to fight a corrupt government?

I guess we can effectively let this thread die because those of you with honesty are too ashamed to admit, while those of you not suffering from the disease of honesty will simply vanish.

LOL!

WHY CAN MANDELA NOT FIGHT FOR HIS COUNTRY AND HIS PEOPLE AGAINST A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT WHEN MANY OF YOU PROCLAIM YOU WOULD?

To continue to perpetuate some of the outrageous myths against Mandela the way some of you are, is to deny South Africans what they have worked and fought hard for. It isn't perfect there, not nearly... there is still a lot of racially based crime on all sides. But to pretend something great didn't happen there, that people didn't unite at all... that's unkind and unfair. Mandela facilitated the majority of white and black South Africans to move forward. It isn't his fault that some blacks couldn't forgive and sought revenge anymore than it is the white leaders, who worked with Mandela to help that transition, fault that some whites couldn't let go of apartheid.

A man like Mandela is terrifying to the status quo and lies had to be made up about him. Yes he used violence, he never apologized for it but a lot of what is claimed about what he did before he was jailed is made up, propaganda to scare you and to keep you from sympathizing. Peaceful protesters of apartheid were being shot like wild dogs in the streets. Resistance leaders arrested and murdered before trial... people like to talk about the necklaces, yet don't have the integrity to talk about how freedom fighters were killed after arrest, by suffocation. They were beaten down to the floor, cuffed with the feet of the cop placed between their arms and body and the cop sat on their back and placed a black bag over the prisoners head, drew the cord and yanked back on it til the prisoners head was pulled back and just before passing out they would take the bag off and repeat...

I ask any of you to honestly answer this question... how do you not fight back when that is being done to your people? When people invade your country and oppress your people how do you not call it war? How do you not call it self defense? How do you call it terrorism? If the Chinese came to the US tomorrow with superior weapons and declared that this was their land now and Americans are all now second class citizens, forced out of our homes and off our lands, disallowed to go to our public parks, beaches... our restaurants... that these are only for the Chinese now. We can't ride the buses or trains we can't drive our cars. We march, we protest, we say we are equal to the Chinese but they don't listen, they don't care... they shoot us like the animals we are. What would you do?

Mandela was no saint, he was no god but he was no terrorist either. He was a man, who did what he had to do to defend his people and when he came through it to the other side, back to freedom... he did the right thing and talked forgiveness and reconciliation.

With a little tongue in cheek.

Nothing was defeated in an heroic battle, The racist National party was simply voted out of power, after "one man, one vote" was mandated ,in a referendum(within a republic), by the vilified white south africans.

The real violence during that time was, barbarism between tribal factions. If a civil war was to break out at that time, it would have been between these factions (like it did in Rwanda in the very same year). The ANC's millitary wing was absolutely no match for the SADF who's main function was to combat communism. They lost

Tribal Xenophobia again raised it's head with attacks against peoples from other african countries. Strangely these attacks where not directed at white people.

The Farmers, do however get symbolically slaughtered at an alarming rate.

Apartheid (separateness) was not defeated. There are many of all skin colors, who would choose to live within their homogenous cultures.

Mandela him self was conditioned while incarcerated to play out the myth of reconciliation to the world press, so sanctions could be lifted, and The Spring Boks could compete internationally again.

Mandela was not a great states man or leader, in fact he was just a member of a half arsed, communist organization, not very good at terrorism
He is false symbol created by the press

I feel nothing for the myth,
but as a former fellow human being, rest in peace Madiba.

On a lighter note, the revolting Westboro Baptist Church is talking about flying out to Mandela's funeral and protesting. Some drivel about him being damned for getting a divorce and remarrying. Lunatics. I hope they get their asses kicked.

As much as I personally liked his post-apartheid public image, Nelson Mandela, like Robert Mugabe, was probably a Jesuit asset in Africa.

The long-running war between the Vatican's military arm and the Masons/Illuminati (think MI6/CIA/NSA) for control of the world (and everyone on it) certainly has not left Africa untouched. Whilst Nelson Mandela was indeed much loved throughout the world for his message of concilliation, he was really in place to garner public support for the Jesuit coup against the existing colonialist regime in South Africa.

He was no more than another puppet on the world stage, and as most South African's realise today, nothing has really changed. Racism is still rife in South Africa, albeit the other way round now.

www.zengardner.com...

www.theguardian.com...

www.news24.com...

Big smile aside this man was a Marxist Communist. His wife, Winnie, was part of a terrorist organization that hung gasoline filled tires around opponents necks and lit them.

George Washington he was not.

Nelson Mandela...

The rockefeller bought him a free out of jail card in exchange of diamond mines in Africa. Mandela made a lot of money while slaves were suffering in the mines. He was just another politician and a hypocrate.

Thread Closed.

The spirit of the thread seems to have long since been forgotten.