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How many of you "patriots" proudly proclaim that you are armed and prepared to battle an oppressive government?
Gotcha don't I?
LOL...just drop the front and admit you hate Madoba because he's black. I mean there's no other way to spin this right? You ALL yell how you will fight the oppressive American government, but when a man does it...because he's black you declare him a POS.
His life was a hardship but also inspirational for many.
He's been sick a long while now. And he had to put up with his ex-wife and her antics.
He's earned his rest. He's in a better place.
Well, I guess if one was a murdering satanist cum marxist and general IMF/World Bank/UN TOOL, HELL might be a "better place." What did George Burns say, to paraphrase I think it was, "I don't want to go to heaven, it would be boring, all my friends are in hell."
People die. The government will be happy when I am dead (as long as they can intercept the evidence I hold). I'm glad madela's dead, didn't come soon enough. I am so ef'ing tired of this mass media promoted bizzarro world where wrong is right and terrorists are heroes, and an honest man is kicked in the teeth while the scam artists in government, stocks and international banking steal everything, even if it's nailed down.
Cheers - Daveedit on 12/5.2013 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)
So was apartheid right? How many Africans died as a result of it?
Where you from, you ever lived in SA? No apartheid was not right and when I was there (1986-1990) all those laws were going away and many had been removed prior to 1986, change was happening. We had other races living right next door in a predominantly Dutch area (I'm not Dutch, it was just a nice house I had). Mandela was a rabid dog, he sang about killing whites. Now tell me that's not racist, mmmm, k? His singing along "kill the boer" inspired a generation of farm murders, the beginnings of genocide much like Zimbabwe.
On to your question concerning the number of deaths... MOST politically motivated deaths were based on ACTS OF TERRORISM by the ANC, AGAINST THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES! Like I told some other clown, DO THE RESEARCH, it works better when you have an informed opinion based on FACTS, no mass media BS.
Cheers - Daveedit on 12/6.2013 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)
I bet you top dollars you can't back that up about him singing about killing Whites where are the policies he implemented or set in place of taking over White farms part of the criticism of him was he did no such thing! ..and do you know what co and tell pro is..?? yes that's infiltrators and informants into the movement and no he never ordered people killed while he was behind bars as a matter of fact he up-breaded others in the movement for doing just that so stop lying on the dead.edit on 6-12-2013 by Spider879 because: (no reason given)
I think someone already answered the song about "kill the farmer, kill the boer" so I don't really have to answer that. The white guys however are his comrades in arms that helped smooth the road for him and organize funding.
As far as anything else goes, DO THE RESEARCH. I don't want to hold you hand and spoon feed the information to you, find it out for yourself because you wouldn't believe me anyway until you found it all yourself. I know a lot about the past and present South African situation, I still have friends there. I lived there for four years in the 80's and I worked the SADF, Armscor and CI, sometimes directly, but primarily through a military contractor. I had walk-on access to every military base and border installation from north of Jan Kempdorp to Komatipoort and a few to the south, and was a project manager/R&D engineer on a few black op and special weapons programs, so try to imagine my security clearances, especially since I reported to the Chief of CI. Imagine how much you can know when you are not compartmentalized.
So when I talk about South Africa, I am talking from a position of direct up close and personal in-your-face experience. Like I said in another post, yeah I have witnessed a necklacing, I have seen the aftermath of people skinned alive and then disemboweled and worse. So, if you haven't walked the walk, at least do the research and find out what is real and what is simply politically motivated fantasy.
BTW, I treat people all the same until they prove to me I should treat them otherwise. I have no prejudices, except maybe for stupid people. You know the type, the ones that DON'T DO THE RESEARCH and then base their opinions on MSM BS, political hype and/or information from people that are 3 or more times removed from the actual event in question. That being said, I never met mandela personally but I worked for people that knew him and had direct contact with him, both political and military personnel. I also researched a lot of what he admitted to in court and there was corroborating evidence of his killing, directly or indirectly, innocent soft targets as well as political/military targets. Most of this information is on the internet and if you take a little time, when you're done, you will probably give your head a shake when you realize how much the government and the mainstream media have both lied to you.
But as I said, you need (as well as all the rest of the people out there singing this terrorist's praises) to find this out for yourself. Nothing is what it seems.
Cheers - Dave
You know for all you GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!..DON'T THREAD ON ME..OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HAND TYPES Mandela singing kill di wy people while looking very uncomfortable and not at all enthusiastic doing so is actually kinda tame and that's why he is a great man...for rest assured I could not promise not to rise above my baser nature if I were him...
“I am not a saint, unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying.”
― Nelson Mandela
I know I am a lesser human being, because I believe I am less capable of that kind of forgiveness and restraint...thank whatever God/gods/goddess you worship I was not him.edit on 6-12-2013 by Spider879 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
Most of us don't know these stories it's because ,or it looks like Msm doesn't show them to the world. .
But slavery can't be tolerated anymore you have to admit that everyone has the right to live equally in this world.
I know that's wishful thinking and will take millennia to archive.
I read some of your harsh statement ,but I can't judge of what you'd experienced over there and have seen all of that I can assume that hatred grows against the grotesques of humanity that have taken place in that time period,only have lead to more hatred.
It seems that the evilness that covers mankind
For ages never stop only if we could forgive the past and al the wrongdoings we may find peace but that I think will be a long way to go
Nelson Mandela was a great statesman and human.
He deserves the honor that the world gives him now.
I believe his funeral will be as charged emotionally as that of John Paul 2. Surpassing national, racial and religious boundaries.
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
Pretty much exactly why Mandela should not be praised. The left loves to idolize terrorists. Anyone that kills innocent people to achieve their goals are not good people. The ends do NOT justify the means, perhaps some of those innocents would have grown into a leader that could have united SA and made it a stable country. Instead of inciting violence against anyone suspected of supporting apartheid. I fear that in the next few days and weeks we are going to hear of killings in SA, but from non mainstream sources.
Would Christ Jesus approve of Mandela?
Mandela is most likely burning in hell.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
he created a racist, terrorist organization that is destroying South Africa.
Bravo Mandela, bravo.