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Topic started on 18-11-2004 @ 01:53 PM by esdad71
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www.usatoday.com...
Is this where it all begins, and the food supply is choked when more cases arise???
A second case of mad cow disease may have turned up in the United States, but the suspect animal did not enter the food chain, Agriculture Department
officials said Thursday.

This is the 2nd case....
The possible case comes 11 months after the United States had its first case of mad cow disease. Japan and other countries are still maintaining bans
against U.S. beef as the result of that earlier case.

Should we be worried???
Just before the start of the July Fourth weekend, the department had announced two other possible cases of the brain-wasting illness in the United
States — but then said follow-up testing proved negative. Both were subjected to the more definitive testing after initial screenings were
inconclusive.

Are there other cases that are supressed??? Man, civil unrest, talk of civil war and now Mad Cow. Damn, Titor groupies are having a field day.
On a seriuos note, this is something that should be watched.
If food supply chains were disrupted by this fear or truth, it could lead to healthier lifestyles!!! 
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and for you liberal Bush bashers, this quote shows it is not his fault and he is trying to regulate it...  
In the only confirmed U.S. case, a Canadian-born Holstein was found to have been infected, but just that one case caused Japan and more than three
dozen other countries to refuse U.S. beef. That hurt U.S. export sales and the farm economy.
Bush administration officials are now focused on trying to get those bans lifted and with establishing a national identification system for tracking
livestock and poultry from birth through the production chain.
Such a system has worried producers, who prefer to keep their records confidential or run a voluntary ID clearinghouse that would provide government
officials with limited access.

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reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 01:54 PM by Simulacra
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edited for reasoning.
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reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 01:55 PM by Lecky
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Was just reading about this and John Titor immediately sprung to mind
Still skeptic though...
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reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 02:13 PM by fusion360
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Can someone provide a link about what Titor said about this matter? Im a newbie so I wanna see what he has to say on this, goodle search didnt come
up with it.
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reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 02:31 PM by Kidfinger
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Let japan ban our beef imports, maybe we can get some filet mingoin for about 25 cents a pound now
Before I get flamed, it was a joke. I know there are some dairy farmers suffering because of this.
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reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 03:36 PM by outsider
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I've cut down on my beef intake quite alot since the first case, but I have to admit I'm addicted. Hell even my current mood says ribsteak.
My grandfather was a big beef eater & he died of Alzheimers disease. There's now speculation that it might be related to Mad Cow.
Seems like everything I like is bad for you these days.
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reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 06:19 PM by dh
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Still better to avoid all red meat product
They want some spreading vCJD disease
Fits in with how the Schumann resonances are already playing playimg with your DNA
Keep the prion-likely substances well away
This is engineered
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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 10:27 AM by Sistinas
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Originally posted by outsider
I've cut down on my beef intake quite alot since the first case, but I have to admit I'm addicted. Hell even my current mood says ribsteak.
My grandfather was a big beef eater & he died of Alzheimers disease. There's now speculation that it might be related to Mad Cow.
Seems like everything I like is bad for you these days. 
I been thinking about this for awhile now. Came up with baked beef flavoered tofu. I have made it and it is very close to real beef. Hope this helps
those who are addicted to beef.
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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 10:34 AM by dgtempe
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I would rather eat big, juicy steaks and let the effects of it show here on ATS
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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 10:47 AM by DontTreadOnMe
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They won't keep me from my enjoyment of beef.
The last time this scare came up, the folks in the Far East had contracts for our beef. The beef industry had to fulfill those contracts.
Guess who bore the brunt of that shortage, in higher prices?
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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 10:52 AM by esdad71
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Personally, I don't know if I could give up eating 'red meat'. I love a good steak or a 1/2 lb burger. I have read also the similatiry between Mad
Cow and Alzhiemers and it was very intruiging..
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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 11:21 AM by Sauron
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I don't eat meat so I don't care really but I thought I would throw this in anyway.
USDA Finds 'Inconclusive' Mad Cow Test Result
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:34 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - First-round screening tests returned "inconclusive" results for mad cow disease from one animal and samples were being
submitted for final and more sophisticated analysis, the U.S. Agriculture Department said on Thursday
Asked about the impact of the test result on talks with Japan, which has barred U.S. beef since last December, USDA Associate Deputy Administrator
Andrea Morgan said, "I would not expect that that would affect them" because of the steps already taken by the agency to prevent the spread of the
disease.
More

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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 11:00 PM by niman
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USDA Finds 'Inconclusive' Mad Cow Test Result
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:34 AM ET

USDA calls a positive "inconclusive". Actually it's two positives on the same cow that are "inconclusive". These comments would make George
Orwell's day.
The bottom line is the cow was high risk, was tested twice, and was positive twice. Now we are waiting for the thrid positive so the inconclusive can
be the second confirmed case in the US. There is more to come. USDA keeps the numbers down by simply limiting tetsing.
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reply posted on 19-11-2004 @ 11:23 PM by OpenMinded
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Fusion360, welcome to ATS. SkepticOverlord compiled a comprehensive John Titor post collection...
Start here
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reply posted on 22-11-2004 @ 02:20 PM by esdad71
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Heres an update
cnn.netscape.cnn.com...
Niiiiice.....
The U.S. Agriculture Department kept information about the suspect animal under tight wraps, refusing to identify its age, sex or location.

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reply posted on 22-11-2004 @ 02:43 PM by TPL
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Isn't the Titor scenario now dead?
All the events predicted for the recent election didn't happen.
NO CIVIL WAR!
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reply posted on 22-11-2004 @ 03:03 PM by monkeipeg
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I was reading a short story by Brian Aldiss ( british author of the story that inspired A.I.) called Beef. It took place in the future, and discussed
the extinction of cows, and how separate groups reacted to it ( some actually believed the cease of the beef market would cause the collapse of the
world market). It was an interesting story and I reccommend it to anyone, but what caught my eye was the last two sentences of the story: "Meat Makes
You Ill. It Has Made The Whole Planet Ill. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar to the events in this story happens in the immediate future.
Kind of makes you want to stop eating meat, at least red meat. It made me stop.
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reply posted on 22-11-2004 @ 03:36 PM by esdad71
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This was not just a Titor issue, as yo ucan see that was a added Bonus. IN his defense though, most of what he said is coming true. Remember, the
inaguration hasn't occured yet. If you thought the riots were bad in 2000, well, figure it out for yourself. This would fit with his 'timeline' of
civil unrest starting with the elections...
This could have an adverse affect on the global meat market in the next 5 to 10 years.
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reply posted on 22-11-2004 @ 03:46 PM by Djarums
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Will it really have an effect though? So many cultures have meat as a main staple in the diet. Americans are constantly eating meat for example.
Will the average American stop eating meat? Short term I could see people limiting themselves. But long term? I highly doubt there will be any long
term impact on the market. I like my barbecues!
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reply posted on 22-11-2004 @ 03:50 PM by TPL
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Originally posted by monkeipeg
I was reading a short story by Brian Aldiss ( british author of the story that inspired A.I.) called Beef. It took place in the future, and discussed
the extinction of cows, and how separate groups reacted to it ( some actually believed the cease of the beef market would cause the collapse of the
world market). It was an interesting story and I reccommend it to anyone, but what caught my eye was the last two sentences of the story: "Meat Makes
You Ill. It Has Made The Whole Planet Ill. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar to the events in this story happens in the immediate future.
Kind of makes you want to stop eating meat, at least red meat. It made me stop. 
It won't stop me eating meat, unless the cases of Mad Cow suddenly exploded.
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