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ketsuko
reply to post by NorEaster
Except some people liked the policies they had and had them for specific reasons. And the new policies are larded down with coverages that people do not always need. For exampled, why would a 61-year-old woman need coverage for maternity care, prostate exams, and substance abuse? Shouldn't she have the choice of a policy that doesn't include those if she doesn't want them? Not under Obamacare, but her previous policy offered her that freedom to choose.
But I guess that's a "dangerous piece of crap" for her to have because she can't get her prostate examined or get her impossible baby delivered.
Then, there is the small matter of the sky-high deductibles. Why should I pay close to $1,000/month in premiums for my family only to get a policy that has a yearly deductible pushing $10,000 when our current coverage is an extremely good employer plan PPO for about $400/month with $1,000? Oh right, because Obamacare will make our policy noncompliant next year, too.
I guess I just didn't know how crappy our extremely good plan was and has been for the past decade.
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
"Be your brothers keeper" was supposed to be a suggestion, not a mandate.
Tell it to Jesus. I don't care what you do.
And I don't care what you do.
See? We agree. You want to cherry-pick the laws you support (just like the president) and you don't care what I do, so why should you or anyone else care if I get insurance or not?
So it appears that you are for the freedom to opt out of healthcare.
Bully for you!
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
So we shouldn't do the amnesty thing, because the law is the law, right? We should kick those suckers out and start obeying the law because the law is the law, and illegal aliens have broken the law, right?
I have no idea what you're trying to suggest. This thread is about the ACA (and some bits about what the founding fathers really wanted for their new nation). Either you just had a stroke or you're trying to muddy the waters here. Either way, I'm not interested in discussing whatever it is you're trying to initiate.
The law is the law. Either that conveys for all laws, or you're just cherry-picking.
(and people call ME partisan!)
If I ever bother to waste my time in a immigration reform thread then you can ask me what I think about it. This isn't a thread about immigration reform. You want me badgering you about the controversial history of the Standard Model of Physics, and then call you a coward when you refuse to get baited? I can. I have strong ideas about that subject.
No.
You said the law is the law.
I countered and stated then that you would be against amnesty because it is against the current law.
You weaseled out.
*yawn*
I win.
ketsuko
reply to post by NorEaster
The first policy I described before IS an official Obamacare exchange policy. I guess that means that everyone in the US who is being forced to the exchange is being made a de facto idiot by law.
edit on 3-12-2013 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)
ketsuko
hounddoghowlie
no matter what the polls or the people say. that piss ant harry ried won't let it come to a vote in the senate.
and the reason he won't let it come up for a vote is that, he knew and knows for sure now that most dems in the senate would vote for repeal.
what we need is for the voters in nevada,to petition for his recall.
edit on 3-12-2013 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)
I hate admitting this, but I tried and tried to get people here to vote for Aiken. I didn't like him and didn't want him, but I kept saying, "You vote for Claire and you're voting for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. At least they'll bury Aiken so far on the back bench that you'll never know he's there, and we can get rid of him the next time."
Now, not only do we have to keep seeing that worthless Obamabot Claire running around on the press shows everywhere, but we still have the worthless Reid and majority leader ... not that McConnell would be much better. He hates his own base, too.
beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
Oh.
Dang.
You mean I lost the freedom to self-determine?
Crap.
Well, at least some folks like yourself are cheering for that loss.
You should be proud and stand up and say that you are against freedoms! Really! That takes guts!
Goody for you! (one internet cookie)
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
The founding fathers also created congress. I won't hold them responsible for the bowl of bowel-trash that resembles leadership.
NorEaster
beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
Oh.
Dang.
You mean I lost the freedom to self-determine?
Crap.
Well, at least some folks like yourself are cheering for that loss.
You should be proud and stand up and say that you are against freedoms! Really! That takes guts!
Goody for you! (one internet cookie)
Again, I have no idea what your saying here (even after hitting the link to try and figure out what you believe you're responding to)
So this is what it's like posting in the political threads? It's pretty much an exercise in futile disorientation. Just bits and pieces of discordant phraseology.
NorEaster
ketsuko
reply to post by NorEaster
The first policy I described before IS an official Obamacare exchange policy. I guess that means that everyone in the US who is being forced to the exchange is being made a de facto idiot by law.
edit on 3-12-2013 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)
Theres no such thing as an official Obamacare policy. All policies are Healthcare Insurance Industry policies.
Where did you say you get your news?
ketsuko
reply to post by BubbaJoe
Yep, but he wasn't Claire and a rubber stamp vote for Reid.
I really wanted one of the other two candidates. The business guy actually because I'd never heard of him before and he had no connections to the party unlike the gal who was running against him or Aiken.
And I'd really just like someone who isn't a Blunt or a Carnahan ...
sorgfelt
reply to post by ketsuko
Medicare is not broke. It works fine. That is crap put out by the insurance industry who wants their business.
sorgfelt
reply to post by ketsuko
Medicare is not broke. It works fine. That is crap put out by the insurance industry who wants their business.
ketsuko
sorgfelt
reply to post by ketsuko
Medicare is not broke. It works fine. That is crap put out by the insurance industry who wants their business.
Working and being broke are not the same thing.
And then again, just because something works doesn't make it affordable, and if it isn't affordable long-term that pretty much means it's broke.
Medicare was set up based on the idea of society as a pyramid with younger generations being larger than older ones. We are now seeing older generations being larger than younger ones. This is why both Social Security and Medicare are in serious trouble financially. We cannot afford them without dooming ourselves, our children and our grandchildren to penury in order to force them to support us as we age.