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ketsuko
reply to post by NorEaster
How can you call it a law when the President whose job is to faithfully uphold and enforce the laws rewrites the thing on whim to suit his purpose on a nearly weekly to daily basis?
Also, it isn't just the website. What most people understand is that their insurance that they were repeatedly promised they could keep, over and over, has been cancelled. Most people can comprehend that they were lied to and most people don't like that, and it makes them very suspicious about what else they were told.
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
NorEaster
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
The founding fathers also created congress. I won't hold them responsible for the bowl of bowel-trash that resembles leadership.
NorEaster
ketsuko
reply to post by NorEaster
How can you call it a law when the President whose job is to faithfully uphold and enforce the laws rewrites the thing on whim to suit his purpose on a nearly weekly to daily basis?
Also, it isn't just the website. What most people understand is that their insurance that they were repeatedly promised they could keep, over and over, has been cancelled. Most people can comprehend that they were lied to and most people don't like that, and it makes them very suspicious about what else they were told.
The government can't force any insurance company to continue a specific policy just because someone wants that policy. That would be a government takeover of the health insurance industry. Didn't you know that these cancelled policies were actually company discontinued policies? I guess you didn't.
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
edit on 12/3/2013 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
The founding fathers also created congress. I won't hold them responsible for the bowl of bowel-trash that resembles leadership.
The point is that the founding fathers didn't want any company or private concern exerting undue control over the public's ability to communicate with one another across distances. The USPS is the last line of defense against corporate control over long distance communication for the American public. That's why the corporate-owned Rightwing has been working so hard to cripple the USPS via recent bizarre congressionally imposed regulations that force it to maintain billions in liquid assets that would bankrupt any other major corporation.
You guys don't seem to really understand who your enemies really are.
beezzer
NorEaster
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
So we shouldn't do the amnesty thing, because the law is the law, right? We should kick those suckers out and start obeying the law because the law is the law, and illegal aliens have broken the law, right?
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
The founding fathers also created congress. I won't hold them responsible for the bowl of bowel-trash that resembles leadership.
The point is that the founding fathers didn't want any company or private concern exerting undue control over the public's ability to communicate with one another across distances. The USPS is the last line of defense against corporate control over long distance communication for the American public. That's why the corporate-owned Rightwing has been working so hard to cripple the USPS via recent bizarre congressionally imposed regulations that force it to maintain billions in liquid assets that would bankrupt any other major corporation.
You guys don't seem to really understand who your enemies really are.
Gee, I thought it was because UPS, FedEx, and email was cheaper.
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
So we shouldn't do the amnesty thing, because the law is the law, right? We should kick those suckers out and start obeying the law because the law is the law, and illegal aliens have broken the law, right?
I have no idea what you're trying to suggest. This thread is about the ACA (and some bits about what the founding fathers really wanted for their new nation). Either you just had a stroke or you're trying to muddy the waters here. Either way, I'm not interested in discussing whatever it is you're trying to initiate.
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
The founding fathers also created congress. I won't hold them responsible for the bowl of bowel-trash that resembles leadership.
The point is that the founding fathers didn't want any company or private concern exerting undue control over the public's ability to communicate with one another across distances. The USPS is the last line of defense against corporate control over long distance communication for the American public. That's why the corporate-owned Rightwing has been working so hard to cripple the USPS via recent bizarre congressionally imposed regulations that force it to maintain billions in liquid assets that would bankrupt any other major corporation.
You guys don't seem to really understand who your enemies really are.
Gee, I thought it was because UPS, FedEx, and email was cheaper.
ketsuko
NorEaster
ketsuko
reply to post by NorEaster
How can you call it a law when the President whose job is to faithfully uphold and enforce the laws rewrites the thing on whim to suit his purpose on a nearly weekly to daily basis?
Also, it isn't just the website. What most people understand is that their insurance that they were repeatedly promised they could keep, over and over, has been cancelled. Most people can comprehend that they were lied to and most people don't like that, and it makes them very suspicious about what else they were told.
The government can't force any insurance company to continue a specific policy just because someone wants that policy. That would be a government takeover of the health insurance industry. Didn't you know that these cancelled policies were actually company discontinued policies? I guess you didn't.
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
edit on 12/3/2013 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)
Those policies that were cancelled were not up to regulatory standards as mandated by HHS under Obamacare. So, the insurance companies cancelled them to be in compliance with the law because, as you say, the law is the law right?
Then, Obama decided that the law isn't really the law and said that companies could keep issuing those policies in defiance of the law for another year. So I guess the law is the law unless it isn't because Obama said so.
Of course, slavery was also the law of the land once, too.edit on 3-12-2013 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)
ketsuko
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
Government controlled "anything" ends up failing.
Look at USPS.
Freedom is the accelerator.
Did you know that Ben Franklin was the 1st Postmaster General? The USPS started in 1775 (July 26)
I thought you guys wanted the US to preserve the values of the founding fathers? The US Postal System was their 1st ever concern, so think about that when you wear your tri-corner hats with their tea bags dangling.
The founding fathers also created congress. I won't hold them responsible for the bowl of bowel-trash that resembles leadership.
The point is that the founding fathers didn't want any company or private concern exerting undue control over the public's ability to communicate with one another across distances. The USPS is the last line of defense against corporate control over long distance communication for the American public. That's why the corporate-owned Rightwing has been working so hard to cripple the USPS via recent bizarre congressionally imposed regulations that force it to maintain billions in liquid assets that would bankrupt any other major corporation.
You guys don't seem to really understand who your enemies really are.
Gee, I thought it was because UPS, FedEx, and email was cheaper.
Email is cheaper, but the others are just plain faster and more efficient with better customer service. You can't necessarily blame assets on that.
beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
"Be your brothers keeper" was supposed to be a suggestion, not a mandate.
NorEaster
beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
"Be your brothers keeper" was supposed to be a suggestion, not a mandate.
Tell it to Jesus. I don't care what you do.
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
So we shouldn't do the amnesty thing, because the law is the law, right? We should kick those suckers out and start obeying the law because the law is the law, and illegal aliens have broken the law, right?
I have no idea what you're trying to suggest. This thread is about the ACA (and some bits about what the founding fathers really wanted for their new nation). Either you just had a stroke or you're trying to muddy the waters here. Either way, I'm not interested in discussing whatever it is you're trying to initiate.
The law is the law. Either that conveys for all laws, or you're just cherry-picking.
(and people call ME partisan!)
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
beezzer
NorEaster
Also, the law is a law. Period. And no one is rewriting anything. Where do you get your news? Here?
So we shouldn't do the amnesty thing, because the law is the law, right? We should kick those suckers out and start obeying the law because the law is the law, and illegal aliens have broken the law, right?
I have no idea what you're trying to suggest. This thread is about the ACA (and some bits about what the founding fathers really wanted for their new nation). Either you just had a stroke or you're trying to muddy the waters here. Either way, I'm not interested in discussing whatever it is you're trying to initiate.
The law is the law. Either that conveys for all laws, or you're just cherry-picking.
(and people call ME partisan!)
If I ever bother to waste my time in a immigration reform thread then you can ask me what I think about it. This isn't a thread about immigration reform. You want me badgering you about the controversial history of the Standard Model of Physics, and then call you a coward when you refuse to get baited? I can. I have strong ideas about that subject.