reply to post by ooMoo
I'm not sure why you think any God (or Man for that matter) needs or has to be worshiped?
God doesn't have to be. And no man is to be.
Suppose you take a physicist to see the ocean for the first time in his life. He looks over it as the sun is setting, seems to be thinking deeply,
then says "You know, I bet there's at least 16 septillion teaspoons of cold water mixed with various salts and minerals out there."
Or a contractor on his first sight of the Sistine chapel might say "Well, with about a year, and this list of supplies, I could probably do it for
you, if I don't run into labor troubles."
Here, while they may have their facts correct, I am perfectly comfortable in saying that their reactions are wrong. Not a matter of taste, they are
It's not that God has to be worshiped, He doesn't need anything at all. We're the ones that have to get our reactions right, that's what worship
But I assume you do so because someone told you to or you have read it?
Please forgive me for offering up another example. My understanding is that golfers are told to keep their heads down during the swing, or something
bad will happen to the flight of the ball. The novice golfer goes out, tries a lot of things, and discovers, "He was right, lift my head makes the
ball go all wonky." Does he keep his head down in the future because someone told him? Or, because he worked it out for himself?
You're right, it's been told to me, I've read it, and I've worked it out for myself.
I take it you have had no direct correspondence (communication in both directions) with any God in order for your to come up with your views? I
would love to hear about them if you have.
That's a couple of interesting statements. You've packed a lot into them.
You know of course, that throughout history there have been Christians who claim to have heard God's voice and spoken to Him. Dozens, hundreds, of
such episodes have been reported, even to modern times. It's not a dead certain bet that I haven't. Which brings us to your next comment, that you
would love to hear about them.
What were you thinking when you wrote that? Were you expressing complete disbelief that such a thing could happen? Were you saying, "If I hear one
reasonable story, I'll convert right away?" What would you're reaction be if I said I had talked with God? Ridicule and mockery? It happens all
the time. In short, forgive me, but why should I answer that question? I don't believe you're seriously asking.
You believe what you believe for whatever reason, but don't pretend that you actually know what happens before or after we die. There is no
possible way for you (or anyone else for that matter) to know. So stop trying to convince us that you do know.
I'm surprised you would say
that. I've taken great pains in this thread, and many others, to make clear that I do not know
what happens after death. I know what I
believe happens. I am not trying to convince you, or anyone, I know.
I would recommend that you spend your time and energy praying for other people who are in more need of divine intervention than myself. Perhaps
patients in the Children's Hospital may be a good starting point.
Thank you. That is a wonderful idea. They had slipped my mind.
I must say that I'm a little surprised that you agree with me. Spending time and energy praying for others is a good thing, you're right.