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Indonesian Pyramid Is 20,000 Years Old Claims Geologist

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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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Gunung Padang Plateau, West Java

So it is claimed, but it is certainly very old, at least as old as the pyramids in Egypt and maybe older.

This has been in the press but it seems to have gone under the radar a little so I thought I would post it. It has been on ATS but I thought it worthy of another posting.


Gunung Padang is a megalithic site located in Karyamukti village, Cianjur regency, West Java Province of Indonesia, 50 km south-west of the city of Cianjur or 6 kilometers from Lampegan station. It is the largest megalithic site in South-Eastern Asia. The existence of the site is mentioned in Rapporten van de Oudheidkundige Dienst (ROD, "Report of the Department of Antiquities") in 1914. The Dutch historian N. J. Krom also mentioned it in 1949. Employees of National Archeology Research Centre visited the site in 1979 for a study of archaeology, history and geology. Located at 885 metres above sea level, the site covers a hill in a series of terraces bordered by retaining walls of stone that are accessed by successive steps (about 400 andesit steps = 95 metres). It is covered with massive rectangular stones of volcanic origin. Sundanese People consider the place as sacred and believe the site as a result of King Siliwangi attempt to build a palace in one night. The asymmetric Punden Berundak is facing up to northwest, to Mount Gede,[1] mainly constructed for the purpose of worship and built in a position that has been noticed geomantic and astromantic factors. Based on megalith shape the site is built in 1,500 years BC.


There was a survey done last year as well as another survey done recently,

frontiers-of-anthropology.blogspot.com...

www.panoramio.com...

1.bp.blogspot.com...

There is some controversy over the validity of this pyramid due to the stone tools found near the site.

"Another critic of Hilman’s theory points out that recently found bone tools found in a close lying cave were dated to an age of 9,500 years, . The critical argument is if people were there 7,000 BC. and were only able to make bone tools, then “how should a culture that should be up to 20,000 years old, have built such a pyramid?”"

However, modern equipment has detected rooms, steps and terraces beneath the ground. To researchers and scientists that is evidence of the artificial nature of the hill and planning indicating intelligent human design.

I’d like to encourage anyone interested, including geologists/archeologists whether amateur or professional, to comment on this story and its possible implications and any new updates.

Another look:

conspiracyplot.net... s-old-claims-geologist-video


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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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If that's a pyramid, then I have 3 of those close by here in QLD.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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Unfortunately the truth about this will probably be suppressed and some pile of crock will come to surface as legitimate fact just like how the Egyptian Pyramids and granite colossi were cut out and crafted from quarries by hitting them with dolerite balls; idiocy!



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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I live in QLD- where abouts are these located, Scuba?



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 09:55 PM
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The critical argument is if people were there 7,000 BC. and were only able to make bone tools, then “how should a culture that should be up to 20,000 years old, have built such a pyramid?


One word: Tsunami.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 09:59 PM
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Yeah that's one possibility. I don't agree with the argument being made about the stone tools.....I just mention it to indicate what some people are saying in opposition to this.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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I have seen those stone logs in the Pacific elsewhere,


Gunung Padang Plateau, West Java


Nan Madol, Micronesia


LeLu Island, Micronesia


Neolithic sea faring civilization?
Enjoy

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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 10:09 PM
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I viewed the quote as being from the article, and not your own personal view. My most favorite ATS topic is ancient and unknown civilizations. Thank you for adding this thread to the collection.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 10:21 PM
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My most favorite ATS topic is ancient and unknown civilizations.
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It's a passion of mine too



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 10:45 PM
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Just out the back of HB ol mate.



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 01:41 AM
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Tks that's really interesting! I wonder if those 'stone logs' in those places could be dated to around the same time period as Padang, West Java?



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 02:23 AM
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It looks like Nan Madol and LeLu island date around the 1200's a.d. with Nan Madol being slightly older, they both were probably part of the same culture. West Java is 3,500 miles away from Micronesia.
I don't know enough about these places to comment further, other than it's interesting that they
both used building blocks the same shape and size.

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posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 02:57 AM
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I'm really starting to hate the word "pyramid".

Anything passes for one these days.

If a cow takes a dump on the lawn...it's a pyramid.



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 03:46 AM
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MarioOnTheFly
I'm really starting to hate the word "pyramid".

Anything passes for one these days.

If a cow takes a dump on the lawn...it's a pyramid.


naw, more like a patty.

anyway, someone has been all over that place, building these places.

with the same stuff, it looks like.

1200AD?

no records of it?
strange.



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 06:35 AM
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Ok, so it turns out LeLu island and Nan Madol were from 2 different cultures.
Dutch explorers were in contact and traded with LeLeu island.
There are online references to Nan Madol being 10,000 years old with many ruins under the sea.
This has all sparked my imagination and I will have to delve more deeply into it over the next few days.
I wonder if there are other places with the same stone work.



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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weirdguy
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It looks like Nan Madol and LeLu island date around the 1200's a.d. with Nan Madol being slightly older, they both were probably part of the same culture. West Java is 3,500 miles away from Micronesia.
I don't know enough about these places to comment further, other than it's interesting that they
both used building blocks the same shape and size.

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Not unusual in any way, given that basalt columns form the same way all over the world.

Harte



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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Oh crap



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 06:26 PM
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There are online references to Nan Madol being 10,000 years old with many ruins under the sea. This has all sparked my imagination and I will have to delve more deeply into it over the next few days. I wonder if there are other places with the same stone work.


This is interesting...I'm going to look at this idea too!



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 03:14 AM
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Has there been further developments on this story? Looking at sites such as this and Gobekli Tepe, it seems quite clear that high civilisation existed well into (and possibly before) the last Ice Age, and the conventional thinking that humans only started to organise around 9600 BC is a huge error. What is of particular interest is the siting of the Pyramid, again we have an incredibly old built artifact orientated along astronomical and geodesic lines. Again it is in a part of the world which ostensibly had no contact with the other parts of the world in which these structures pop up. Again, for some baffling reason, the mainstream of archaeological thought chooses not to acknowledge the common threads between these sites all over the world.

I get the distinct feeling that what we are looking at with this and other similar sites is being distorted by our modern world lens. I'd be eager to hear any further news anyone has. Meanwhile, this provides some good background of the current scenario.

www.andrewcollins.com...



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 04:02 AM
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That's just ludicrous, Harte. Everyone knows Bran made the columns in the Giant's causeway, the Mabinogion said so. Or was it Geoffrey of Monmouth? I forget. Stone logs




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