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spartacus699
what's funny is they new when they faked it it wouldn't have to be prefect because they knew most people are too stupid to know enough to figure it out. And even when they did they'd still be met with the brainwashed masses who would do the defence for them
spartacus699
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spartacus699
what's funny is they new when they faked it it wouldn't have to be prefect because they knew most people are too stupid to know enough to figure it out. And even when they did they'd still be met with the brainwashed masses who would do the defence for them
even at the time people were questioning the landings i remember my grandfather going on about a number being on a rock that he noticed .
and a story on a.t.s. about a australian woman seeing a coke tin /or bottle in one shot but you are right about how stupid the masses are 9-11 proved that to me -see my thread on that one spartacus tptb arrogence is shocking
Ya but we were all that dumb too! (ya I'll check for that thread). Like for myself I didn't know jack until I started doing some research in 2011 and also started listening to Alex Jones. Then slowly very slowly I started to piece a lot of the BS together. Like that was only 2 years ago now! Before that I too was a totally naive brainwashed six oclock news sheeple! aaahhhhh. So ya it's sad. Even now I'm no saying I know it all, not even close, but I know enough to realize that most of what tptb tell you to believe is all BS or has some hidden agenda behind it. ahhhh
Cancerwarrior
I absolutely believe we went to the moon.
I just also believe that they could not show the real footage and had to make some footage to release to the American public.
I believe that once we got there, and discovered it was inhabited,that was reason enough for them not to want to go back.
CaptainBeno
Comments please:
1: The waving flag? Yes it has been covered but no real explanation....so go ahead.
The "Apollo 15 waving flag" is only one of many problem areas in regard to that mission. Remember, this is the crew that had smuggled the envelopes into space so they could sell them to collectors back on earth. The Apollo 15 stamp scandal has money connections to the Howard Hughes organization... and when I say Howard Hughes I mean the Godfather who owned half of Las Vegas and was the biggest employer in Nevada during the Apollo program. Payoffs were his specialty. If he couldn't hire you, he would buy you. If he couldn't buy you, he would destroy you.
2: No blast area under lander? Not even a little bit. Plus no dirt on feet.
NASA has made the point of showing us LRO images of the "halo" produced at a landing site, again, this is the Apollo 15 mission. This "halo" was created by the blast of the decent module AND the ascent module engines, both together.
However, the Apollo 15 pictures of the dust free feet were taken after the landing. We know that the surface regolith is very fine by looking at the dirt that accumulates/clings to the astronauts during EVA. The dust is very very fine, it clings to everything.
I think there should be a very fine dusting on the lander feet, not clumps, or small rocks, but a very fine dust.
3: Multiple light sources.
Multiple light sources are a reality on the lunar surface because of the reflectivity of the regolith. We see many images of well-lit astronauts facing away from the sun. Technically speaking... it's true... the camera lens will capture all the light, including multiple light sources (reflected off the descent module, reflected off the ground) when Apollo astronauts are snapping pictures on the lunar surface. Could some of these multiple light sources be artificial??
4: Reflections of "objects"....ahem, I mean stage lighting.
5: The infamous "C" rock........why indeed?
The "C" rock controversy is about the one image from Apollo 16, AS16-107-17446. I have never really thought this was important evidence because it's not logical.
All Apollo images, every single negative was first screened by CIA/NPIC image expert Richard Underwood.
Underwood is a pro, he's not going to miss the "C" on his Apollo negatives! The negative would have been tossed in the fire immediately if it had such a plainly visible error. As such, he allowed the negative to go through the process of release to NASA, who released it to the public with the error intact. Again, this defies logic. They would not let something so easy go through the printers office. I think it's a printing mistake.
6: Disappearing crosses.....dear dear me NASA. Plus...many more
I know what you meant by disappearing crosses, however, NASA is also going one step further... NASA has joined with Arizona State University to digitally remove the cross hairs from all Apollo images.
The many problematic issues with the Apollo cross hairs on Apollo images has forced NASA to finally go in this direction. Once NASA/ASU remove all the cross hairs from Apollo images they will have scored a major propaganda victory for Apollo. See thread NASA is removing the reseau marks from Apollo images www.abovetopsecret.com...
7: My favorite......multiple same background shots......what? Did you run out of "space" in the studio?
8: Lets all make one! I've got some tin foil!!
Apollo 15, again! Multiple back ground shots and the tin foil LM. This one looks like a projection screen technique used and then re-processing voodoo in the darkroom. Once the "new negative" is created, the old source is destroyed, the "new negative" is then released to the public relations officer.
Notice how this photo has almost HD like qualities? Strange? huh considering it was apparently taken on the moon? All other photos seem to be so grainy? That's another thing to be careful about when viewing NASA's images from the moon. They present a .jpg or .tiff file, we must believe that they have faithfully and accurately scanned any of the negatives. Catch-22.
I have flown in many many dodgy aircraft, but this one takes the Pi$$
SayonaraJupiter
CaptainB, you had got some answers from the Apollo Defense team. Now it is time for a skeptical view. This is only my view, I don't represent any factions of thought and I don't support all versions of the many hoax theories.
The "Apollo 15 waving flag" is only one of many problem areas in regard to that mission. Remember, this is the crew that had smuggled the envelopes into space so they could sell them to collectors back on earth. The Apollo 15 stamp scandal has money connections to the Howard Hughes organization... and when I say Howard Hughes I mean the Godfather who owned half of Las Vegas and was the biggest employer in Nevada during the Apollo program. Payoffs were his specialty. If he couldn't hire you, he would buy you. If he couldn't buy you, he would destroy you.
NASA has made the point of showing us LRO images of the "halo" produced at a landing site, again, this is the Apollo 15 mission. This "halo" was created by the blast of the decent module AND the ascent module engines, both together.
However, the Apollo 15 pictures of the dust free feet were taken after the landing. We know that the surface regolith is very fine by looking at the dirt that accumulates/clings to the astronauts during EVA. The dust is very very fine, it clings to everything.
I think there should be a very fine dusting on the lander feet, not clumps, or small rocks, but a very fine dust.
Multiple light sources are a reality on the lunar surface because of the reflectivity of the regolith. We see many images of well-lit astronauts facing away from the sun. Technically speaking... it's true... the camera lens will capture all the light, including multiple light sources (reflected off the descent module, reflected off the ground) when Apollo astronauts are snapping pictures on the lunar surface. Could some of these multiple light sources be artificial??
The "C" rock controversy is about the one image from Apollo 16, AS16-107-17446. I have never really thought this was important evidence because it's not logical.
All Apollo images, every single negative was first screened by CIA/NPIC image expert Richard Underwood.
Underwood is a pro, he's not going to miss the "C" on his Apollo negatives! The negative would have been tossed in the fire immediately if it had such a plainly visible error. As such, he allowed the negative to go through the process of release to NASA, who released it to the public with the error intact. Again, this defies logic. They would not let something so easy go through the printers office. I think it's a printing mistake.
]I know what you meant by disappearing crosses, however, NASA is also going one step further... NASA has joined with Arizona State University to digitally remove the cross hairs from all Apollo images.
The many problematic issues with the Apollo cross hairs on Apollo images has forced NASA to finally go in this direction. Once NASA/ASU remove all the cross hairs from Apollo images they will have scored a major propaganda victory for Apollo. See thread NASA is removing the reseau marks from Apollo images www.abovetopsecret.com...
Apollo 15, again! Multiple back ground shots and the tin foil LM. This one looks like a projection screen technique used and then re-processing voodoo in the darkroom. Once the "new negative" is created, the old source is destroyed, the "new negative" is then released to the public relations officer.
That's another thing to be careful about when viewing NASA's images from the moon. They present a .jpg or .tiff file, we must believe that they have faithfully and accurately scanned any of the negatives. Catch-22.
spartacus699
Appollo 17 they were on the moon for 1320 minutes. They took 1986 photos, so more than 1 per minute of every waking moment they were supposedly on there? I doubt it.
SayonaraJupiter
...the Apollo 15 pictures of the dust free feet were taken after the landing. We know that the surface regolith is very fine by looking at the dirt that accumulates/clings to the astronauts during EVA. The dust is very very fine, it clings to everything.
I think there should be a very fine dusting on the lander feet, not clumps, or small rocks, but a very fine dust.
What about the images and video makes you think they are not real images and video of the Moon
what specific information makes you believe that the Moon is inhabited?
Cancerwarrior
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
What about the images and video makes you think they are not real images and video of the Moon
There is an abundance of information on this very site concerning that. Search is your friend.
I was asking about what YOU specifically thought was wrong with the images of the Moon, not the claims of other people on this site.
What about the images and video makes you think they are not real images and video of the Moon?
I doubt you are saying you believe every claim here on ATS and elsewhere about problems with the Apollo imagery, because obviously many of those claims have been proven to be false -- usually due to the claimant not understanding photography in general or the specifics of moon imagery.
Soylent Green's question
what specific information makes you believe that the Moon is inhabited?
CancerWarrior's reply
The moon is very anomalous in and of itself.
Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. Alot of heavier elements like Titanium are present in vast quantities on the moons surface, so much so that many geologists have considered these elements were brought to the moons surface in some unknown way.
The earth is about 4.5 billion years old. The moon has been confirmed to be about 5.3 billion years old. how is it older?
Moon rocks are magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. Several of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.
Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth.
The moon is also much less dense than earth , speculating that the interior of many areas of it is hollow, and that the moon has a very light (if existant) core
How does one explain the fact that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Coincidence I suppose.
And don't forget, one side is always facing the earth, no matter where it is relative to orbit. All we are ever going to see is the side facing earth.
I don't see any way these phenomenon are natural in any way. Just my opinion.
Cancerwarrior
reply to post by wmd_2008
Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. Alot of heavier elements like Titanium are present in vast quantities on the moons surface, so much so that many geologists have considered these elements were brought to the moons surface in some unknown way.
The earth is about 4.5 billion years old. The moon has been confirmed to be about 5.3 billion years old. how is it older?
Moon rocks are magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. Several of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.
Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In 1958, Soviet astronomers at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. They also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely periodical.
The moon is also much less dense than earth , much speculating has been done that the interior of many areas of the moon is hollow, and that the moon has a very light (if existant) core
How does one explain the fact that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Coincidence I suppose.
And don't forget, one side is always facing the earth, no matter where it is relative to orbit. All we are ever going to see is the side facing earth.
I don't see any way these phenomenon are natural in any way.
And as crazy as the moon might be a spaceship (or some other engineered astral body) there is really no data to disprove such a theory. I believe truth really is stranger than fiction many times.
My two cents anyway.edit on 10-12-2013 by Cancerwarrior because: (no reason given)