Rush Limbaugh says Pope is preaching Marxism

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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Not sure where to post this politics or religion, at times you could merge these topics.



Pope Francis: Successor to St. Peter ... the people's pontiff ... Marxist?

That's what conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh suggests, calling the Pope's latest document "pure Marxism."

Limbaugh blasted the pontiff on Wednesday, a day after Francis released "Evangelii Gaudium" (The Joy of the Gospel), a 50,000-word statement that calls for church reform and castigates elements of modern capitalism.


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I haven't read what the Pontiff wrote yet, I know it bashes capitalism and trickle down economics but I'm not sure if it promotes or teaches Marxism, unless any criticism of capitalism is marxism...




posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Great...the spokesperson for the conservative GOP has now alienated another huge voting segment of the electorate.

He has mostly already alienated women, the disabled, minorities. His base of conservative white men is solid but Rush's strategy to win elections might as well be thought up by a hillbilly heroin addicted ....

oh wait....


radio.about.com...
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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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The Pope calling faith based economics (e.g. trickle down) immoral? There are many levels of irony there to choose from.

This is a clear example of how followers of a meme will attack their own to enforce orthodoxy. Even the Pope is not immune. Catholics must --and will attack the progressive.

As for "capitalism"? Machines and 'murican Christianity swear by it.




posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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When Pope Francis speaks on matters of theology ... like 'don't judge the souls of homosexuals' or 'reach out and help others' or 'pray pray pray' .. then I'm digg'n him.

But when Pope Francis starts talking about wealth redistribution and a global tax to shift wealth to poor nations ... then I get VERY nervous. Who would take care of the money? CORRUPT PEOPLE. Either corrupt communists or corrupt socialists or corrupt theocrats ....

Pope Francis should stick to matters of theology and stay out of the finance/politics.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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Great idea Rush. Not a single minority base wants to vote for your party. So to continue the Republican tradition of alienating your voting base, you start attacking majority bases. Let's see how this works out.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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I won't say what Limbaugh is preaching, so as not to be impolite to the unofficial Republican Party leader and spokesperson for calling the Pope a Marxist. But I do suggest that he get real, or get a life, or both if he can work it out.
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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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That guy is a douche. Who listens to him still?? Oh yeah angry white southerners with IQs below 100. He is a non-factor.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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I think I just saw Pope Francis tweet, "Limbaugh is going to Hell."



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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I'm conservative and white but Limbaugh always seems to push things too far for me to even listen or read what he says. I'm sure somewhere in his broadcasts he make some valid points but remarks like this one are why I'll never listening to him.

"The Pope is a Marxist!" Ha ha, got to admit it's a catchy title for Limbaugh to use. Got to play to the base I guess.

As for the OP's reflection that speaking against capitalism is marxism more like speaking against capitalism is terrorism now.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:02 PM
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He is and will protect his own interests, he is conservative and he is protecting the status quo. He is very rich and supports a system where the rich get richer and the poor get company and even poorer. Capitalism has many faults so its easy to criticize, even so he wil attack anyone, thing, or group that sees things differently.

This is a populist move to attract young people back into the church, and a attempt to unite the poor countries against the current form of capitalism were using. I wouldn't underestimate this Pope.
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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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Old news.
I heard it live...and Limbaugh later read on-air an update explaining the Pope's speech was mistranslated in the press.



Was the Pope’s Criticism of Trickle-Down Economics Mistranslated?

www.nationalreview.com...



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:04 PM
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Sorry about your bad luck. Ha ha. You listen to him live??? Seriously???

And then you link to the National Review for a debunk.

Get the net.
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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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The concept of living a unselfish, unworldly, sharing life may seem like “communism” or “socialism” to American conservatives, but in reality they are Christian concepts. Unfortunately most Christian conservatives are so caught up in a lifestyle of selfish greed, that they don't even realize its the wrong attitude from a biblical perspective. Christ certainly was not a capitalist, and he never had anything good to say about people engaged in that “worldly” lifestyle. In fact Christ lived in a communist fashion, out of a “common purse”, and off the “socialist” charity of his followers.

Somewhere along the line it has become accepted by most US Christians that capitalism is somehow supported by God. When the truth is that capitalist greed has caused the majority of the worlds pain, suffering, death, wars, exploitation of the environment, depletion of natural resources, etc...



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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defcon5
the truth is that capitalist greed has caused the majority of the worlds pain, suffering, death, wars, exploitation of the environment, depletion of natural resources, etc...

I dunno ... don't forget major organized religions.
It's very possible that they have caused more suffering, death and wars than anything.
(and of course, they are up to their eyeballs in $$$ ... kinda goes hand in hand)



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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It's not really surprising that the Pope is preaching socialism (or Marxism, if you prefer.) He's lived within the folds of a socialist institution his entire adult life, his every need taken care of by the Church. Yes, he lives modestly, to his credit, but that does not obviate the fact that he's never had to struggle to find food or medical care. It's part of his life, being coddled by what amounts to the State.

And, you could make a fair case that the Church lives in its own wealth because it has taken money FROM the poor. Go into any Latin American church, for example, and look at the wealth of gold within that building. Now go outside and look at the lack of wealth in the town. Where did ALL the wealth go? To the church.

So the Pope condemns capitalism while taking wealth from the poor, the same thing he claims capitalism does. Sorry, but that's hypocritical.
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posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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Great post defcon5 . While they don't want to admit it Jesus was the first "communist" LOL



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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Well said, you beat me to it. I'm glad you did, as I wouldn't have been able to put it so well.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:18 PM
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I dunno ... don't forget major organized religions.
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That's because they are practicing capitalism rather than religion. It just backs up defcon's point.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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Anyone or any group that constantly uses hyperbole is unreliable. If that is all they have - they have no rational basis for what they are saying.

Like swearing, occassionally it's appropriate - but rarely, very rarely.

This overuse of hyperbole has ruined the discourse in this country. 'tis a pity.

The Pope a Maxist, hardly. A Socialist, perhaps. Intelligent, compassionate and pragmatic - I'm beginning to think so.



posted on Dec, 2 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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FlyersFan
I dunno ... don't forget major organized religions.
It's very possible that they have caused more suffering, death and wars than anything.

I don't know where that rumor originates from, but it always bandied about by the religion hater crowd, and it's historically inaccurate as heck...

The only people who seem to make their wars about religion are the Muslims, but they make EVERYTHING about religion.

Please tell me how the big wars, such as WWI & II, or Korea and Vietnam were about religion? How about Napoleon? The American civil war? The American Revolutionary war? How about the Falklands?

Man...
I'm having a hard time thinking of a major war that was religion based going back to the 30 Year War.
The majority of wars have been fought over land, which in essence goes back to resources, wealth, and greed...





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