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sk0rpi0n
Islam provides the complete back story to the events in the garden.
sk0rpi0n
@IkNOwSTuff...''If God is omnipotent and omnipresent like the Koran says shouldnt he have known this was gonna'' .......................................................................... A better question is why would God create Satan in the first place if He knew satan would cause so much trouble? The honest answer is that God never said His job was to keep us all happy and satisfied all the time. He isn't anybodys personal genie. He made us, and He can subject us to His tests... As and when He pleases. He can do all that and can still remain omnipotent and omnipresent.
IkNOwSTuff
You do not describe a loving god nor one that is worthy of my adulation.
That said I do believe in God, I just dont believe we will ever come to know him via books that basically amount to propaganda and manuals on how to control a populace.
I had no authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. So do not blame me; but blame yourselves. - Koran 14:22
Why do religious books always make god out to be such a nasty spiteful prick?
IkNOwSTuff
If God is omnipotent and omnipresent like the Koran says shouldnt he have known this was gonna happen.
If he was willing to create Satan and allow some of us to go to hell for being mislead then he doesnt sound all that merciful or loving.
Why do religious books always make god out to be such a nasty spiteful prick?
Sorry no offence intended Skorp, Your an intelligent guy, surely you can see all the contradictions in these books. God is all knowing, all powerful, all loving and all merciful but you dont do what he says you can burn in hell for eternity.
How do you reconcile these contradictions?edit on 2/12/2013 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)
why put the whole responsibility of saving people on God?
God is Merciful and Extremely forgiving. Just ask for it!
If someone knows that there is a God, Heaven, Hell and still continues to reject isnt he/she voluntarily choosing hell?
I dont believe in original sin, God does
not punish us while on Earth,
judgement comes at a later stage.
29:12 And those who disbelieve say to those
who believe, "Follow our way, and we
will carry your sins." But they will not
carry anything of their sins. Indeed,
they are liars.
But God created the Universe anyway,
for a purpose, what that purpose is, I
cannot tell you, because I do not
know.
51:56 And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.
I can say that the purpose is important
and Good, so Good that it overrides all
the suffering that takes place in this
and other worlds.
Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I
will create a vicegerent on earth." They
said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who
will make mischief therein and shed
blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy
praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not."
Humanity invented 'Satan' , he does
not reallly exist.
7:27 O ye Children of
Adam! Let not
Satan seduce you,
in the same
manner as He got
your parents out of the Garden,
stripping them of
their raiment, to
expose their
shame: for he and
his tribe watch you from a
position where ye
cannot see them:
We made the evil
ones friends
(only) to those without faith.
An all powerful all loving god would
not have made hell AT ALL!!!!