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reply to post by BlueMule
Spiders are much misunderstood and unappreciated creatures
And in the vast majority of cases, very good mothers
Some have gone so far to suggest that it might be us as the direct agents of the divine, carrying the divine spark in to the realm of matter in order to experience what there is to be experienced in the phenomenal universe so as to complete some 'operation' (Magnum Opus).
Plus, there's pie and coffee.
In Steiner's version of the story of The 8th Sphere, Lucifer and Ahriman want to make off with that treasure house and create their own planet, but I digressinate.
“Asuras [other demons, as it were] are spirits of the very greatest egoism who remained behind during Saturn evolution. They want to condense matter and compress it ever more so that it can't be spiritualized and brought back to its original condition. They're the dregs of the planetary evolution that goes form Saturn to Vulcan. The asuras inhabit the moon and from there they work on the men whom they want to drag down into the eighth sphere and thereby tear away from progressive evolution and its goal — the Christ. All those who strive towards the eighth sphere will eventually live on a moon.”
To the modern mind it might seem a contradiction to say Ahriman opposes increased consciousness but promotes intelligence and science. This is because the modern mind is so immured in what is generally considered to be "scientific thinking" that it has almost no conception of the true nature of conscious thinking.
The fact is that the "scientific" thinking normal in this epoch, no matter how clever, is hardly conscious at all (possibly with some relatively rare exceptions at moments of "insight" or mathematical discovery)..
And since it is unconscious, it is not our free action; it is automatic.
And this is what Ahriman wants: he wants to stamp out all traces and all possibility of free, individualized human consciousness; he wants the Man not to be an individual, but only a member of a general species of pseudo-mankind -- to be a clever, earth-bound animal, an "homunculus".
[M]an is perpetually exposed to the danger of having his free will wrested from him and dragged by Lucifer and Ahriman into the Eighth Sphere. This happens if the element of free will is transformed, for example, into visionary clairvoyance. When this is the case, a man is already in the Eighth Sphere. This is a matter of which occultists are so reluctant to speak, because it is an awful, terrible truth. The moment the free will is transformed into visionary clairvoyance, what unfolds in the human being becomes the booty of Lucifer and Ahriman. It is immediately captured by them and thereby spirited away from the Earth. You can see from this how, through the shackling of free will, the spectres of the Eighth Sphere are created. Lucifer and Ahriman are engaged perpetually in shackling man's free will and in conjuring all sorts of things before him in order to tear away what he makes out of these things and let it disappear in the Eighth Sphere ... This devilish plan — for here we have indeed to do with the devil — was put into effect by Lucifer and Ahriman when it had occurred to occultists to endeavour to accomplish something through mediumship. Lucifer and Ahriman inspired the mediums through whom they arranged the whole business, in order that people might be guided to the realm whence the dead were alleged to be speaking. Lucifer and Ahriman could then lay hold of their souls.
One of the names of the moon in Sanskrit is Soma, which is also the name, as is well known, of the mystic drink of the Brahmans and shows the connection between the two. A "soma-drinker" attains the power of placing himself in direct rapport with the bright side of the moon, thus deriving inspiration from the concentrated intellectual energy of the blessed ancestors. This "concentration," and the moon being a store-house of that Energy, is the secret, the meaning of which must not be revealed, beyond the mere fact of mentioning the continuous pouring out upon the earth from the bright side of the orb of a certain influence.
This which seems one stream (to the ignorant) is of a dual nature--one giving life and wisdom, the other being lethal. He who can separate the former from the latter, as Kalahamsa separated the milk from the water, which was mixed with it, thus showing great wisdom--will have his reward.
And, "No Soup For You!", the Moon is a giant Soup Nazi.
Every human, at some point in their lives, experiences a moment of connection. United in a buoyant fullness, we may be joined in a chorus of shining spheres, singing circles which overlap and merge edges in space. One bright night, we will find one another and lock hands, turning our joyous faces to the world, filled to the brim. All our loved ones stand clear before us, all that we care for quickens to our touch, the eternal presence of life makes itself known within us, and the fact of time endows all things with meaning.
In that moment, we belong to the Moon.
How does “clairvoyance” feed the Moon; and why did Blavatsky encourage practices such as mediumship, communication with the dead, and divination?
Gertrude made one of the most important discoveries ever in parapsychology, one with strong spiritual implications and one which I think none of the spiritual traditions knows about, for while it’s something that can happen in everyday life, it’s pretty much unobservable except under laboratory conditions. She gave many classes of students ESP tests, guessing at concealed cards, but, before giving or scoring the tests, she had students fill out questionnaires that asked, among other things, whether they believed in ESP.
When she analyzed the results separately for the believers – the “sheep” – and the non-believers – the “goats” – she found a small, but significant difference. The sheep got more right than you would expect by chance guessing, they were occasionally using ESP. The goats, on the other hand, got significantly fewer right than you would expect by chance.
Think of it this way. If you were asked to guess red or black with ordinary playing cards, no feedback until you’d done the whole deck, you would average about 50% correct by chance. If you got 100% correct, you don’t need statistics to know that would be astounding. But if you got 0%? Just as astounding!
The sheep thought they could do it, they got “good” scores, they were happy. The goats knew there was no ESP, nothing to get, they got poor scores, they were happy, that “proved” their belief. These were not people who were sophisticated enough about statistics to know that scoring below chance could be significant….
Many other experimenters replicated this effect over the years.
The only way I’ve ever been able to understand it is to think that the goats occasionally used ESP, but on an unconscious level, to know what the next card was and then their unconscious, acting in the service of their conscious belief system, influenced them to call anything but the correct one. The goats used a “miracle” to support their belief that there were no such things as miracles….
Talk about living in samsara, in a state of illusion!
We were created to be creators... to extend the Kingdom of Heaven as sons and daughters of God.
The scientific paradigm, which serves a deadly untruth about our very nature, also leads people to believe the Moon is merely a mindless rock, a belief which does not 'feed' the Moon, the Sun, or the Earth.
Observing natural processes and harnessing them constructively can only occur through application of the scientific method, and yet here we have another example of our greatest gifts being turned against us.
You know, one thing that gets to me, is that Steiner made a caveat for "clairvoyance" that he failed to make for science. Basically, that while he believed that one type of clairvoyance (the type he engaged in) was fine, he made no such concession for science. Observing natural processes and harnessing them constructively can only occur through application of the scientific method, and yet here we have another example of our greatest gifts being turned against us.
"...or to the extent that new signals do get in they all have to be edited to fit in to the belief system. If they don't fit in to the belief system, they are repressed one way or another; like the doctors don't hear the babies screaming when they are circumcised."
-Robert Anton Wilson
Oh yeah, you’re so much better than the lowly ones. So immensely more evolved. So untouchable. Did YOU learn your cosmic lessons? It doesn't look like it.
I think that if Steiner had heard that he would have thought that it was the very observation of how he believed Ahriman to work in the world.
For what it's worth; it just struck me deeply enough to post the comparison.
Well, for what it's worth, on my part, I don't like RAW all that much on the whole