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Self Evident. Proof of Twin Tower CD = Remote Controlled, Swapped-in, Military Drone Aircraft on 9/1

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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 09:58 PM
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:31 PM
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Zanti Misfit
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" I know beyond a doubt it was controlled demo. "

Thats pretty much a " Given " by now . The Question that Still remains without much Proof , is Who was Responsable ? The List of Suspects is beyond reproach when it comes to Definitive Finger Pointing IMO..........;(


I can't understand how this made its way to the hoax forum.
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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combatmaster

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"Possible connection to controlled Demo" can only be possibly considered if even one piece of leftover demolition material is was found in the rubble.

No?

Fine.

(You'd think someone would have faked that by now.)


Done and done! here

Your link wouldn't load for me.


(post by EarthCitizen07 removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Zaphod58

signalfire
the black box info shows that the cockpit doors were NEVER OPENED, thus negating the possibility of hijackings and confirming that only remote control could have accomplished the takeover of the planes, and it's also possible that the passengers thought they were participating in a military exercise (including when they made phone calls from the ground, not air?) and were dispatched afterwards . It's highly unlikely that the PA plane was flight 93, and that the Pentagon had a commercial jet hit it.


There's also zero evidence that the sensor was even connected. Because it never showed the door open, even when it was on the ground at the gate.


I would presume that the tape doesn't start running until the pilots are in their seat and the flight is started, not when they walk in the door.

Do you have PROOF of what you say, or are you just conjecturing? Because that's the first I've heard that, with all my research.

And ALL FOUR SENSORS, ON ALL FOUR FLIGHTS? C'mon now.

Oh, right, I forgot. They miraculously couldn't find some of the black boxes...
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:47 PM
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That's an optional feature. Some airlines choose to use it, most airlines don't. There's no reason for it.

The FDR doesn't just record one flight. It records a good bit of data. In 11 prior flights, the door never opened. Not once.


1. The FDR contained data not only for flight 77, but also for the 11 previous flights. In 41 hours of data, the parameter never changed from '0'. It seems unlikely, although not impossible, that the cockpit door wasn't opened once during any of this time.

www.911myths.com...


How the heck could they release data that proved that nobody opened the cockpit door on Flight 77 at all? Worse still, the data show that nobody opened the cockpit door on the prior 11 or so flights. Apparently the flight crew never brought in a meal to the pilots, and the pilots never had to take a leak.

screwloosechange.blogspot.com...

So if the sensor never showed the door open, how did the pilots get in and out? They never used the bathroom? Never got a meal? Never got drinks? In 12 flights, counting the hijacked flight?
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:49 PM
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Two military cargo planes struck the twin towers. Fox News originally reported it and later it was conveniently forgotten. The planes were indeed RC. The locals said cargo planes with no windows and its clearly on tape. Further one can see the bulge at the aircrafts belly and that hints to the pods themselves.

The buildings were demolished after 45 minutes of impact. There were local fires at the upper middle levels. Nothing below or above. This was not even close to enough to cause a total straight down collapse. Buildings dont even collapse on their own footprint, rather the damaged area breaks off and falls down leaving the rest of the building intact. Its plain common sense.

They basically killed 3000 people would got trapped on those levels because of smoke and fire, and demolised the buildings to cause shock and awe, which later would lead us to many wars and the formation of DHS!

Its all BS! Anyone that has studied what happend that day knows it was an inside job false flag.



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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EarthCitizen07
Two military cargo planes struck the twin towers. Fox News originally reported it and later it was conveniently forgotten. The planes were indeed RC. The locals said cargo planes with no windows and its clearly on tape. Further one can see the bulge at the aircrafts belly and that hints to the pods themselves.


Yes, they said they saw cargo planes with no windows, from over a mile away, on a plane at a high rate of speed.


This is a larger United plane, much closer, higher definition, and you have plenty of time to look at it. And the windows blend in quite nicely with the paint job.
United 777 closeup

As for the "bulge" it's the center wing box where the wings join the fuselage, and the landing gear retracts into.



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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randyvs
I can't understand how this made its way to the hoax forum.


Well, that is where hoax's belong.... where else should a hoax go?



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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EarthCitizen07
The buildings were demolished after 45 minutes of impact.


WTC 1 collapsed 1 hour 42 minutes after it was hit.
WTC 2 collapsed 56 minutes after it was hit.


Its all BS!


Your post certainly is!


Anyone that has studied what happend that day


Knows you have no clue at all when the buildings collapsed, or when they were hit!
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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The buildings were demolished professionally. This is self evident imho. 45 minutes of localised fires CANNOT cause a total building collapse striaght down. It defies physics and common sense.

And how the hell could the building belonging to larry silverstein collapse? 3 buildings brought down by 2 planes? Are you gullible, naive, what? (eyes rolling)

"pull it"! Someone said that. I wonder who? Someone collected insurance big time.



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:06 PM
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EarthCitizen07
And how the hell could the building belonging to larry silverstein collapse?


Larry Silverstein never even owned the buildings, so what are you babbling about?



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:09 PM
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hellobruce

EarthCitizen07
And how the hell could the building belonging to larry silverstein collapse?


Larry Silverstein never even owned the buildings, so what are you babbling about?


He owned WTC 7!



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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EarthCitizen07
He owned WTC 7!


Oh dear, wrong again! You do not seem to know much about 9/11 at all. WTC 7 was NOT owned by Larry Silverstein... what is your source that shows he owned it?



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:27 PM
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9/11 was an inside job.

Don't shoot the messenger.

It's only bad news if nothing is learned from the entire episode of historical insanity, much of which has continued even to this day in regards to the overall policy objectives, outlined by Philip Zelikow, not only after 9/11, in the form of the only official historical accounting of the event, including the "public myth" in regards to it in hindsight, but also before it, making of the imagined event, it's eventual realization, as a policy position, set out three years prior to the event itself as "the New Pearl Harbor" and the "catalyzing catastrophic terrorist event" enabling just about everything that we've seen go down, including the Afghan and Iraq wars, precisely as outlined in the PNAC Document "Rebuilding America`s Defenses, Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century".

It's only REALLY bad, to the degree that nothing is learned from it, looking back on it as future history.


I really mean that because there are lessons to be learned from 9/11 and everything that's ensued in it's wake all of it justified under the singular premise that it is what we've been told and led to believe. Therefore, if voices of reason and investigative inquiry are repressed or silenced and marginalized by the very same patriotic sentiment and belief hijacked by the 9/11 event iself, by certain special interests, namely that of the "relevant ruling elite class" (Zelikow), then we're screwed, and so is history's opportunity ,looking back on it in hindsight, even near 20/20 hindsight in the case of 9/11 due to the fact that it was so well recorded, to learn from it and in the process do it's many victims justice, both those who died that day, and all those who've lost their lives since in the name of "justice", "security" and even the unspoken "revenge". That's the whole point of a black-op psy-op, to hijack the hearts and minds of the people to realize a certain limited and narrowed objective, which in the case of 9/11 involved the intentional eroding of Civil Liberties amidst the militarization of the bureaucracy.

It's dangerous business silencing such voices and information, to protect and preserve only one tolerated historical viewpoint, namely the one that dovetails perfectly with the narrative of Philip D. Zelikow, not only after, but also BEFORE the event itself, as a policy guideline.

This does not imply that everyone has to agree, or that people aren't going to hold various and differing points of view, which is what places like this are for, to both share information and to carry on a civilized debate about what's presented and what we're looking at, so that the opportunity to share and learn may be possible, and maybe in the process creating the opportunity to participate, at some level in a just and noble historical pursuit, which is committed and dedicated to discovering and sharing truth and the pursuit of truth no matter where it leads, even when that information and sharing may be painful as I mentioned in the OP, because sometimes "that which hurts, instructs" (Ben Franklin).

We simply must have the courage, to face these things and face them down, head on, or where are we? What if it becomes the predominant view of the many (in spite of starring and flagging suggesting something to the contrary), that any viewpoint which does not agree with the predominant one, must be stifled, repressed and silenced?

Like I said, it's only like REALLY BAD to the degree that nothing is learned from it or as the case may be is not allowed or permitted to be learned, or even evaluated openly, rationally and with the utmost civility and tact.

That's the scarier part, for me even even moreso than looking at the thing itself as to what we might glean from it and learn from it, maybe even a few things about you know like very bad policy, and stuff like that, which can lead to all manner of unnecessary sorrow and suffering and mayham and war, amid the loss of certain rights and freedoms, namely the freedom to stand up and be counted as an active historical participant in pursuit of a noble and just cause.


Best Regards,

NAM aka Bob



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:31 PM
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Well, that is where hoax's belong.... where else should a hoax go?



You tempt me to violate T&C. But I won't.
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posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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hellobruce

EarthCitizen07
He owned WTC 7!


Oh dear, wrong again! You do not seem to know much about 9/11 at all. WTC 7 was NOT owned by Larry Silverstein... what is your source that shows he owned it?





On September 9, 2005, Mr. Dara McQuillan, a spokesman for Silverstein Properties, issued the following statement [on the issue of Larry Silverstein's "pull it" comment]:

Seven World Trade Center collapsed at 5:20 p.m. on September 11, 2001, after burning for seven hours. There were no casualties, thanks to the heroism of the Fire Department and the work of Silverstein Properties employees who evacuated tenants from the building. ...

In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.

Later in the day, the Fire Commander ordered his firefighters out of the building and at 5:20 p.m. the building collapsed. No lives were lost at Seven World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.” Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building. [US Department of State]


whatreallyhappened.com...

It seems YOU are the one that DOES NOT KNOW what you are talking about!



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:37 PM
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EarthCitizen07
It seems YOU are the one that DOES NOT KNOW what you are talking about!


Where exactly does it say Larry owned WTC 7? - nowhere, as he did not own it.

So again you have shown everyone here you have no clue at all about 9/11!



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 11:43 PM
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hellobruce

randyvs
I can't understand how this made its way to the hoax forum.


Well, that is where hoax's belong.... where else should a hoax go?


Hello, hellobruce,

You must be enjoying this. You know that my post, speaking to this, nothing major at the top of this page was removed, so you're the lucky one - go to it, have fun, enjoy!



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