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reply to post by sled735
Hi OP ...I want to give a few links to some vids ..this one is a lecture by Walter Veith ..he uses very good sorces and puts it in a historical context amazingdiscoveries.tv...
These vids are from a series "Know Your Enemy " www.youtube.com...
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10 FACTS You Must Know About The Jesuits
No other entity on Earth was expelled and suppressed by Catholic and non-Catholic countries as the Jesuits:
Obviously the Jesuits were not expelled from many nations (even Catholic nations) because of their educational or charity work. They were expelled for engaging in and carrying out subversive political plots against humanity to advance their own cause.
There was one other Group actually, they were called the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar never disbanded. The Knights Templar and the Jesuits are interchangeable and are one and the same. SMOTJ
edit on 1-12-2013 by 13th Zodiac because: (no reason given)
Rising to new life The Society of Jesus was restored by the Holy See in August 1814. The suppression had lasted for forty one years. Paradoxically the society had continued to exist in Orthodox Russia. The Czarina Catherine II appreciated their educational work and refused to allow the Brief of Suppression to take effect within her dominions. This gave rise subsequently, to uncertainty as to whether or not the Society still existed canonically. The Pope might have approved of its existence where political circumstances allowed it. Even the Roman Curia did not speak with one voice on this issue. The restoration of the society by the Holy See removed this uncertainty. Pope Pius XI later referred to this whole episode as “a painful page in our history.”
WorldTruth.tv is a fear-mongering, conspiracy website that should be avoided at all cost.
Fact #1 Pope Clement XIV abolished the Jesuits as a society in 1773: www.catholicireland.net...
Mrs. Figueroa did not know that her son was sexually abused until late 1979, when David made a trip home from San Francisco and finally told his mother the details of his abuse at the hands of Father Henry and Bishop Ferrario. Mrs. Figueroa arranged for her son to go to another priest for counseling. The priest, Father Tony Bolger, promptly initiated a sexual relationship with David. www.renewamerica.com...
Other accused predators who have been publicly exposed through civil lawsuits brought during Hawaii’s civil “window” include Br. Douglas Zlatis, Br. Lawrence Robert Christensen, Fr. Anthony Bolger, Father Bruce J. Cullerton, Brother Thomas Duffin, Fr. George DeCosta, Br. J. P. Lackie, Br. John Paul Nedvit, Br. Karl Walczak and Br. Dominic Stone. churchcrimes.org...
A New Jersey man filed a lawsuit Wednesday alleging that he was sexually molested when he attended St. Anthony’s parish and school in Kailua from 1978 to 1981 when he was about 10 to 13 years old. The suit filed by the man under the fictitious name of John Roe No. 11 is against the Roman Catholic Church in Hawaii and the Rev. Anthony Bolger, one of the priests at the school during that period. The lawsuit also alleges that the man was sexually molested by the late Rev. Joseph Ferrario, a priest at St. Anthony’s at the time who later was installed as bishop of Honolulu. www.vaticancrimes.us...
In the 2012 lawsuit, the victim was allegedly molested by both Fr. Henry and then-Bishop Joseph Ferrario. Other accused predators who have been publicly exposed through civil lawsuits brought during Hawaii’s civil “window” include Br. Douglas Zlatis, Br. Lawrence Robert Christensen, Fr. Anthony Bolger, Father Bruce J. Cullerton, Brother Thomas Duffin, Fr. George DeCosta, Br. J. P. Lackie, Br. John Paul Nedvit, Br. Karl Walczak and Br. Dominic Stone.
HAWAII – Predator Priest Trial Delayed
So, as I've pointed out before, it's not enough for Christians to satisfy their Persecution Fetish in claiming persecution around the world at the hands on non-Christians and in turn rationalizing a justification for Reverse Persecution, but, there's requirement for Christians to persecute other Christians who are not the RIGHT KIND of Christians.
What's the old sales line?
Become a Christian and you'll get eternal life and forgiveness?
Oh, wait, you have to be the Right Kind of Christian?
It's all quite a bit Calvin Ball and of little concern if you just don't play the game period.
reply to post by adjensen
I heard from my mom that these two guys at a bar were talking about something they had heard their boss talking to his cousin about on the oil rig over in North Dakota several years back when Reagan was president. Seems that UFOs are actually demons controlled by catholic priests to take over he world. I'm not sure weather I buy the story or not, but it seems to fit right in with this post.
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite
I am not trying to argue with you, but myself as a Christian do not and can not agree with being labeled the same as a Catholic. Yes, Catholics are among most wars and murders in history. I would say most Christians would disagree with any of the Catholics and their ways no matter what. Hell, even the Bible says not to pray to false idols and saints, but what do the Catholics do? They have patron saints they pray to daily. I don't understand why Christians are thrown into the same name as Catholics. It's like comparing the Jewish to Catholics. That's a joke. I am sorry for what religion has done to this world and the people of this world and I hope it changes. Catholics are nothing but a corporation collecting money in the name of God. Yes, I believe the Bible was tainted by man to better themselves and their standings through time, but I think a lot of that was done by corrupt Catholic politics and a mix a pagan principles.
reply to post by 13th Zodiac
Yep, because of the world political situation, the Pope suppressed, not abolished, the Jesuits for 41 years. There is a difference. And yet another error:
Pope Clement XIV abolished the Jesuits as a society in 1773:
The task of abolishing the Society of Jesus then fell on his successor, Clement XIV. As Clement XIV signed the decree abolishing the Jesuit Order he said, “I have signed my death warrant,…” Within nine months he was dead. [Many contemporaries considered his death a case of poisoning, and suspected the Jesuits were responsible].
The Pope went on to suppress the Jesuits, writing the decree to this effect in November 1772 and signing it in July 1773.
No conclusive evidence of poisoning was ever produced. The claims that the Pope was poisoned were denied by those closest to him, and as the Annual Register for 1774 stated, he was over 70 and had been in ill health for some time.
Pope Clement XIV (Latin: Clemens XIV; 31 October 1705 – 22 September 1774),
I know you don't want to hear it, but so what? An organizational structure is something devised to keep people organized and directed to a goal. It says nothing whatever about what the goal is. I bet you didn't know that both the Jesuits and the Nazis used hammers to drive nails. What more proof is needed? But if someone is trying to sneakily and dishonestly associate the Jesuits with the Nazis in their goals:
Hitler modeled his dreaded SS army and party after the organizational structure of the Jesuits and the Roman Catholic Church:
The Nazi regime considered the Jesuits one of their most dangerous enemies. According to John Pollard, the Jesuit's "ethos represented the most intransigent opposition to the philosophy of Nazism." A Jesuit college in the city of Innsbruck served as a center for anti-Nazi resistance and was closed down by the Nazis in 1938. Jesuits were a target for Gestapo prosecution and many Jesuit priests were deported to concentration camps.
Have you got something against schools and universities? Of course, they study history there, so that might be the problem.
Over the last 400 years the Jesuits have succeeded in establishing the largest worldwide network of schools and universities.
Although the work of the Jesuits today embraces a wide variety of apostolates, ministries, and civil occupations, they are probably most well known for their educational work. Since the inception of the order, Jesuits have been teachers. Today, there are Jesuit-run universities, colleges, high schools and middle or elementary schools in dozens of countries.
Really? How about American Presidents? Two have attended Georgetown, a fairly famous Jesuit school. Harvard has seen seven, Yale has had five, William and Mary, and Columbia have both had three presidents attend classes, West Point and Princeton have both seen two. None of those are Jesuit schools.
Thus, the Jesuits have been able to shape and mould the thinking of many famous world leaders, and produce generations of political and religious leaders who were favorable to the Roman Catholic Church, and her doctrinal agenda.
Of heads of states that are known to have been assassinated by Jesuits we mention for example: William of Orange, Kings Henry III and Henry IV of France, Czars Alexander I and Alexander II of Russia, President Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy, and Mexican President Benito Pablo Juarez.
Tsar Alexander I became increasingly suspicious of those around him, especially after an attempt was made to kidnap him when he was on his way to the conference in Aachen, Germany.
In the autumn of 1825 the Emperor undertook a voyage to the south of Russia due to the increasing illness of his wife. During his trip he himself caught a cold which developed into typhus from which he died in the southern city of Taganrog on 19 November (O.S.)/ 1 December 1825. His wife died a few months later as the emperor's body was transported to Saint Petersburg for the funeral. He was interred at the Sts. Peter and Paul Cathedral of the Peter and Paul Fortress in Saint Petersburg on 13 March 1826.
That's like saying ATS is the center of the universal plot to turn mankind into food animals for the Reptilians. If you're going to make a claim like that show some evidence, or (See above) (That's an inside joke from another thread of mine.) That's just silly.
The Jesuits today control all the powerful secret societies that are shaping the New World Order:
Of course the public is unaware of it. Neutral scholars haven't found evidence to support that claim, so they don't write about it.
The Jesuits are responsible for fomenting the two world wars and escalating the Vietnam War after President Kennedy’s assassination.
“The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the starting of the two world wars – a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict.”
After Pope Pius VII was freed from exile in 1814, his first order of business upon returning to Rome was to restore the Jesuit order.
The papacy suffered great humiliation at the hand of Napoleon. Thus, right after the defeat of Napoleon in 1814, Pope Pius VII was freed from imprisonment and was returned to Rome. The need to restore the Jesuit militia became an urgent matter. Rome did not want to be deprived again of the services of the Jesuits, no matter how burdensome this service was to the Church of Rome, and its allies.
“In the agreement to rescue Rome [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy] from the predicament of losing its world control to Protestantism, and to preserve the spiritual and temporal supremacy which the popes [had] ‘usurped’ during the Middle Ages, Rome now ‘sold’ the [Roman Catholic] Church to the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]; in essence the popes surrendered themselves into their hands.”
Because millions of Catholics (including many Jesuits) lived in the Polish provinces recently annexed by the Kingdom of Prussia, the Society was able to maintain its existence and carry on its work all through the period of suppression. Subsequently, Pope Pius VI would grant formal permission for the continuation of the Society in Russia and Poland. Based on that permission, Pole Stanislaus Czerniewicz was elected superior of the Society in 1782. Pope Pius VII during his captivity in France, had resolved to restore the Jesuits universally; and after his return to Rome he did so with little delay: on 7 August 1814, by the bull Sollicitudo omnium ecclesiarum, he reversed the suppression of the Order and therewith, the then Superior in Russia, another Pole, Thaddeus Brzozowski, who had been elected in 1805, acquired universal jurisdiction. (Emphasis added)
The Jesuit Order took over the Office of Inquisition shortly after it was sanctioned and this led to the martyrdom of millions of saints.
However, shortly after Pope Paul III sanctioned the Society of Jesus, the Office of Inquisition was revived and the Pope gave free reign to the Jesuits to run this office, and the inquisitor Generals were granted exceptional powers in carrying out their mandate to root out of all “heretics.” This caused the martyrdom of millions of saints.
In 1908 the name of the Congregation became "The Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office", which in 1965 further changed to "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith", as retained to the present day. The Pope appoints a cardinal to preside over the Congregation, which usually includes ten other cardinals, as well as a prelate and two assistants, all chosen from the Dominican Order. The "Holy Office" also has an international group of consultants, experienced scholars in theology and canon law, who advise it on specific questions.
The generally accepted number burnt at the stake by the Inquisition (including all categories such as Protestants, blasphemers, bigamists and crypto-Jews) is below 5,000
Near the outset of the Inquisition, in a letter of April 14, 1482, Pope Sixtus IV instructed the Spanish to ensure due process, allow legal counsel and appeal to Rome. King Ferdinand defiantly rejected Papal control, the Inquisition becoming thereafter a tool of the monarchy, rather than the church. (Emphasis added)
Does the article get anything right?
The Jesuits are even confessors of popes. “The Pope’s confessor, an ordinary priest, must be a Jesuit: he must visit the Vatican once a week at a fixed time, and he alone may absolve the Pope of his sins."
The new pontiff of the Catholic Church, Pope Francis is a humble, modest and amiable man who could reform the Church and his personal experience with Croatians have encouraged him to value Croatians, particularly their faith, Cardinal Jorge Maria Bergoglia, now Pope Francis' the personal confessor told Hina on Thursday.
"The pope values the firm faith Croatians have", the pope's long-time personal confessor, a Croatian Franciscan priest in Argentina, Berislav Ostojic said. (Emphasis added)
It is frequently asserted that the Society was organized for the express purpose of combatting the Protestant Reformation. Such is not the case. On the contrary, St. Ignatius does not seem to have been aware of the extent of the religious movement going on at that time. His sole purpose was to convert the Turks, and only the failure to get a ship at Venice prevented him from carrying out that plan. Indeed it is quite likely that when he first thought of consecrating himself to God, not even the name of Luther had, as yet, reached Montserrat or Manresa.