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Topic started on 21-5-2003 @ 12:14 AM by Dagger
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Are there any existing moon bases?
What do you guys think?
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 12:27 AM by Ocelot
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I've read a lot on the subject and I have to say im not totally convinced. Although who knows what the "real" space program is up to. I say
"real" because what NASA does is just a front... a smoke screen to fool the public.
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 12:53 AM by ADVISOR
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In reguards to what the real space program is up to, I wonder also. simply do to the fact that NASA now has Airfarce and from what I was able to
discerne from media coverage 1 Army Officer. Now I have no idea why they/government would need a soldier in space for, but I can't imagine it being
practicle. indded NASA and its public relations is definetly a cover.
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 01:24 AM by Osobad28
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Originally posted by ADVISOR
I have no idea why they/government would need a soldier in space for, but I can't imagine it being practicle. 
exactly
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 01:51 AM by FoxStriker
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Think why wouldn't we need a soldier in space. If anything we need lots more soldiers in space. As for moon bases. I do believe there are moon bases
on the moon and a lot more places. If you can think it, there's probably a very close chance its possible and that it's in existant.
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 05:46 AM by ultra_phoenix
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So, for some peoples NASA never sent any astronauts on the moon, but OTH,for some others, they have ( may be ) a base on the moon.....
he he he....
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 08:38 AM by Researcher
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We don't need soldiers in space? D'uh?
Every spacecraft pilot is a former test pilot. Who else has experience with cutting-edge technology aircraft?
Have you ever been a soldier? In my experience, when the feces-fan proximity factor goes to zero, the active duty and former military folk are the
most useful. The civilians back into the wall like wallpaper, the soldiers and vets head toward the problem, get things done.
We need soldiers in space because when something needs doing, it will get done.
I worked for at a NASA tracking station for 15 years. We left a package on the moon called ALSEP: Apollo Lunar Scientific Experiment Package. We were
tracking ALSEP into the early 80s. Those who claim we were never on the moon will please explain how ALSEP got there.
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 09:36 AM by ultra_phoenix
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Originally posted by Researcher
Those who claim we were never on the moon will please explain how ALSEP got there. 
By accident ? With an unmanned rocket ? Or may be a grey flying saucer ?
P.S : I've been soldier.
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 01:12 PM by IronDragon
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From what I have gathered from certain conversations, we were on the moon in the late 50s, early 60s, although an incident occurred that set us back.
As far as whether or not NASA is essentially a public relations ploy, just keep in mind, the only thing you will ever see on TV or hear on the radio
is something that someone wants to you hear. The truth is totally optional.
As far as ALSEP, just like the laser tracking reflector, there is no technical reason why it couldnt have been placed by an unmanned vehicle.
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 04:04 PM by Gazrok
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about the whole faked Apollo Moon Landings. After much personal research though, I am convinced to side with history on this one....
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reply posted on 28-5-2003 @ 07:09 PM by Dagger
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we have been to the moon the missions were not faked.
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reply posted on 29-5-2003 @ 08:33 AM by e-nonymous
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We don't need soldier's in space .... Astronout's are trained to get thing's done up there. We need them, not some guy trained in fighting
technique's.
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reply posted on 29-5-2003 @ 09:18 AM by William
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reply posted on 29-5-2003 @ 09:47 AM by Kriskaos
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The thing I cant fig out is when Neil Armstrong climbs out of the Lunar Lander there is a perfect camera view of him climbing out does anyone know
where that camera was positioned. Maybe it was on the Lander on one of the landing gear. ????
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reply posted on 29-5-2003 @ 11:49 AM by William
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Originally posted by IronDragon
As far as ALSEP, just like the laser tracking reflector, there is no technical reason why it couldnt have been placed by an unmanned vehicle.

Because the laser reflector required live human intervention to properly place, deploy, align, and lock-down?
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reply posted on 29-5-2003 @ 12:17 PM by IronDragon
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Because the laser reflector required live human intervention to properly place, deploy, align, and lock-down? Posted by William
Actually no.
First of all, as long as you pick a decently wide open location to put it in (no high cliffs or boulders around to potentially block orientation back
home), which is what you want for a touch-down area anyway, your halfway homefree.
As far as the required automation to deploy it, once it is down on the ground and unfolded (a very easy thing to design from an engineering
standpoint) all you need is a reflector, at least 4 photodetectors, a motorized base, and a very simple computer.
All the computer has to do is compare the laser energy recieved from each of the photodetectors. Assuming they are mounted on the 4 corners of the
reflector array, all the computer has to do is swivel the motor base back and forth until all 4 detectors show equal amounts of laser reception (then
the array is pointed directly into the beam).
This is further simplified if the array is considerably bigger than as described for the public.
I would daresay my old old old Timex Sinclair computer with only 1K of memory could handle such computational requirements.
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reply posted on 31-5-2003 @ 02:11 AM by Nans DESMICHELS
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Originally posted by Dagger
Are there any existing moon bases?
What do you guys think? 
Funny coincidence, I talk about this possibility with someone last week :
In 1969, USA was able to send men on the moon and since : Nothing ?!
And you dont need a shuttle to send a LEM on orbit :A stratospheric plane, like X-15 or SR-71 can send a sattelite or a spaceship with a LEM on orbit
easily.
I think it's possible that the US ARMY, under a ultrasecret cover made a missiles base on the moon during cold war... Dark side of the moon...
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reply posted on 31-5-2003 @ 11:18 AM by Researcher
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"As far as the required automation to deploy it, once it is down on the ground and unfolded (a very easy thing to design from an engineering
standpoint) all you need is a reflector, at least 4 photodetectors, a motorized base, and a very simple computer."
In 1969?
NASA does not work the way you think. When I worked at a satellite tracking station in 1994, we still had equipment with Nixie tubes. Tektronix 545
oscilloscopes. Univac 642B computers. For those not tuned into electronics: This gear was obsolete in the mid 70s.
Manned space is an intensely conservative bunch. Some of us were begrudgingly starting to accept LEDS and ICs in the '90s. Those newfangled plasma
displays, high density ICS? Not proven, not suitable for us. Bring them back in ten years, we'll see then.
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reply posted on 31-5-2003 @ 04:53 PM by dragonrider
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In 1969? Posted by Researcher
The technology I was describing was proven and in use in the 1950s.
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