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WonderBoi
Does it really matter what causes them? They're being MADE, for a reason. Some of you need to put the "conspiracies" aside and stick to the "science" of things; especially those that constantly comment on any chemtrail topic.
And yet chemtrails/"clandestine geoengineering" are so utterly indistinguishable from nonsense - being as they are based on nothing more than assertion.
Perhaps you could give them some actual evidence it is happening then?
How come you believe chemtrails exist then?
luxordelphi
What's nonsense, imo, is to continue to tell the public that all is normal in our skies; that we've seen it all before; that it's gone on since the dawn of time; that water vapor from jet emissions creates grid lines which combine to cover the entire sky in NATO participating countries.
This is an interesting question because it is the reason I put up this thread and yet you have responded to that in only one post. Geoengineering of our atmosphere without our consent, using materials that are harmful, is, imo, beyond reckless. Particularly reckless if the aim is defense/aggression as in owning the weather and weather as a force multiplier.
But you all don't want to talk about secret geoengineering and how we might use the studies coming out, left and right, to prove that it is happening now.
Because the sky is polluted and weather is out of control.
Did you not read the excerpts from 'The Cirrus Project' wherein in the 1940's (1940's !) it was already determined that 2 pounds (2 pounds!) of silver iodide could have a profound effect on the weather in the entire (all of it!) continental U.S.
You just want to believe in miracles or phenomenal weather magic like outrageously persistent contrails. And you want everyone else to believe this fairy tale as well.
And you want to derail every thread that doesn't agree with nonsense and run every chemtrail believer out of Dodge. You and your pack of friends.
Stop trivializing the impact of geoengineering gone wild.
And, as far as a pseudo-science for outrageously persistent contrails, I could come up with a better one than the official bureau of mis-information has come up with but all it would do would be to step on different corporate toes. However, it would be as close to truth as you all's contrail science which is: nowhere near it.
They found 2 days with appropriate conditions in a 10 day period. On the 2 days they had no problems making contrails. On the other days conditions were not appropriate.
Watervapor is invisible - why would anyone say a visible trail is made of water vapor?? Contrails are ICE CRYSTALS.
"Outrageously persistent contrails"? No - I have no idea what that means - why don't you define it?
luxordelphi
No. There were 2 days out of 10 days of appropriate conditions where they were able to produce a contrail. You put up a document that didn't contain that information. I had read the original, unedited, version.
But I'm not surprised that you put up the edited version.
Oh please!!! There are many times that I have read that contrails are 'just water vapor.'
Jet emissions are highly toxic. In and of themselves, they are toxic.
In and of themselves, at 30,000 feet, they have a profound effect on the weather.
On the ground they have a profound effect on mammals by passing the blood brain barrier.
"Outrageously persistent contrails"? No - I have no idea what that means - why don't you define it?
There was, on this site, relating to this forum, about 2 or maybe 3 weeks ago, a momentary hesitation. But old habits die hard.
As far as your comments about science go: dungsteresque. I have had the good fortune of knowing and speaking with a lot of very smart people in a number of different fields. One thing that they always tried to convey was that it can be understood. And that someone who understands their own field can put it simply enough for a child to understand. And that if this can't be done, it's dung. And the first thing that these people say is that there are many mysteries and many things unexplained and not understood.
They never talk in absolutes (i.e. persistent contrails) the way you do.
luxordelphi
reply to post by network dude
I read your post (Dec. 2, 2013 @5:35am) and don't want to be blunt or short BUT you seem to feel that persistent contrails are some kind of a panacea. A pill to cure all ills. They're not. They're a symptom.
And by the by, persistent contrails, in my area, rarely precede a frontal system. And I had the pleasure of observing persistent contrails from an area that has NO overhead traffic and is on NO flight path with no airport within 60 miles down the mountain. This happened during one of my early excursions into this forum wherein someone had given me one of the flight programs to try out.
I have a question for you: why do you think that grid lines leading to completely overcast skies are ok? Are they ok because you think you can explain them? Tell me true, why are they ok?
P.S.: even though you earlier commended me on my "new angle" with this thread, you don't seem to want to engage it. I will take whatever you have to say on that subject very seriously and consider it most carefully.