reply to post by AsherahoftheSea
Once again, someone speaking out of fear or ignorance. Even in the most heavily policed states, the infidels(cops) are STILL outnumbered hundreds to
one. why do you suppose they all group up on ONE gun owner at a time? And as far as winning over the military not being likely, I spent 6 years in the
Navy (family tradition) and 6 years in the Army post 9-11. Since my discharge I have been in the National Guard, so I think I have a fair bit of
perspective on the feelings of military personnel. There are gun stores around Ft Bragg like liquor stores are around other bases. Ft. hood is the
same way. They wouldn't be there if the market wasn't there. Or, if you want another point of reference, as a combat medic I can tell you this: the
only people I have seen (demographically) that are pro-gun control in the military are whiny white liberal kids that thought four years in the
military would get them free college and uniform derived sex appeal, and minorities that traditionally fell for the anti-gun lie by the fake
However, I can tell you, through keeping in contact with friends in the military that the feeling amongst a growing number of minority soldiers is
changing rapidly. A great many realize that they have been had. The military IS waking up to the fact that the president is a traitor to this country.
Of course it is not 100%, as there are certain amounts of idiocy in any organization, no matter how well constructed or peopled. There are 1,131,920
active duty personnel as of July 31, 2013. Of those 435,858 are Army and 165,209 are Marine Corps. Of the U S Army only 15% is Infantry. That's 65,379
Combat soldiers. Go ahead and count the entire Marine Corps as a nod to "every Marine is a Rifleman first", and you have 230,588 ground troops(not
counting special operations of either Navy or Air Force, because I couldn't find those numbers).
NOW, let's just assume for a moment that those numbers would follow orders to fire on their own people(even though the reports and latest
internet/social media activity indicates a resounding majority of HELL NO) just for simple math's sake. Let us FURTHER assume that because of the
Internet involvement and alternative media, whistleblowers, and the indications of MASSIVE firearms and ammunition purchases, as well as the full
training schedules at MANY of the civilian-only tactical training schools that the same percentage of citizens as what fought against the British,
nine percent, would stand up for their country. This is allowing for the softer nature of the majority of the population as opposed to the average
Revolutionary war era citizen. in a country of 335,000,000 people you get 30,150,000.
Let me say those numbers again: 230,588 combat soldiers and Marines versus THIRTY MILLION ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND CITIZENS, whom by the
decentralized nature of being citizens would turn into an insurgency by default. Ask the Russians how a large traditional army works against an
insurgency on their HOME GROUND, THEIR BACKYARD. Further take into account current U S Army doctrine which states that ground troops do not engage
unless possessing a three to one numerical advantage.
Also to be considered is the mandate passed down by President Kennedy when he created Special Operations to the first Team Sergeants, that if the
government ever turned against the people, their DUTY was to train the citizens to fight. This mandate has been passed down orally, enlisted man to
enlisted man ever since. Think about the caliber of men and the dedication it takes to pass that training. Just wanting to be "billy bad ass" WON'T
get you through it. NOW, consider the number of men that have gone on to civilian life, done other things. Spec ops and Airborne are a young man's
game, due to the intense nature of the work, and the toll it takes on the body. A high turnover rate means a large amount of TRAINED and DEDICATED
PATRIOTS among those thirty million one hundred and fifty thousand. Kennedy KNEW that there was something WRONG happening in American government, that
is why he was murdered, and why he created said mandate.
Does anyone really think that for ONE INSTANT that the majority of military will fire on their own people? Well, I can answer that one: ABSOLUTELY
NOT. There are not enough dhs and mercenaries in the world to prevail against over thirty million people, and I think that number is on the low
If the worst should happen, it should be remembered that no army in history has EVER won against an insurgency.
The numbers are on OUR side, the history is on OUR side, and the advantage of being right and just in simply desiring personal freedom is on OUR side,
the home field advantage is on OUR side.
Some of us will die if we resist? SO WHAT? EVERYONE will die SOMEDAY, that is unavoidable. What is avoidable is living in despotism and slavery.
So come on, I want to hear from everyone from deluded political ideologies, or countries not born out of a Constitution and a tradition of personal
freedom who looks at those numbers and still tells me that the military will crush the citizens, that we will not absolutely and overwhelmingly win.
BOOM GOES THE HAMMA.
edit on Sun01126Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:01:12 -06000000001231SundayAmerica/Chicago by DisgruntledPatriot because: clarification