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reply to post by Scott Creighton
Now all we need is the test to be carried out and we can shed some light as to the veracity of these marks...
PA: But what happens if they are discovered to be created by Vyse I ask?
PA: Would modern Egyptology then revise their theories regarding the inception of the Great Pyramid given that this is the only piece of evidence supporting the current theory? I think not.... although common sense would dictate otherwise...
PA: Given the tone of your previous threads and your obvious depth of knowledge what is your opinion Scott? I assume like me you believe the Vyse markings to be counterfeit...
PA:... but what is your opinion on the claim that Kufu originally constructed the Great Pyramid?
SC: Also, what are your thoughts regarding the "Pyramids as machines" theory... Energy producing/light producing/sound producing....
I challenge anyone to produce ANY form of verifiable legitimate working complex writing system that's even just 10,000 years old.
I challenge you as a 'scientist' to want to support genuine scientific testing.
Again, if the data comes back at 20,000 years or older. Would you support a public and transparent testing of the orchre or has your scientific itch been scratched with what is already known and hell with new data presented?
Really? Is Alice a scientist or claim to be one? Does it matter? No it doesn't the evidence is so overwhelmingly against it being possible for the Pyramid to be 20,000 years old its an established fact. We could sit here for the next 100 years with anyone using facts to debunk this crap. The poster just asked you to do something you should be able to do to support your claims of a 20,000 year old Pyramid of Giza.
Some guys selling a cheap DVD are making these claims so it must be true!!!!!!!! Who cares about a mountain of evidence VS one DVD.
"This enabled us to take the samples of the king's cartridge." - Source.
Scientists in every concentration love to eat other Scientists for breakfast, lunch, dinner, or even just a snack if it frees up funding and gets their own projects notice for funding.
It's not as bloody as it sounds, but, at the same time, it is.
If there was a 20,000 year old pre-dynastic advanced civilization that could be proven, whoever could saddle that pony and ride it would have name-brand recognition the likes of Einstein, and no lack of funding.
The field has had generations and generations of eager minds chomping to make such discoveries and become part of History themselves in doing so.
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reply to post by Aazadan
The rollers and springs corrode, and metals are subject to creep. The building will have to be 'maintained' forever.
You forget that pyramids have stood for so long without any care.
Pyramids are great feat of engineering, even from modern science perspective.
They should have kept quiet about it until after the testing was finished, or at least labeled the sample as something else entirely. They blew it by saying anything before the release of the results.
Saied: "...they have analyzed samples of the cartouche of Khufu and reached the result, which is that Khufu did not build the Great Pyramid and that the ink used in the cartridges to jot down details constructed the pyramid is not old, but the age of the pyramid itself is larger than life, cartouche centuries, which confirms that the pyramid is not due to Khufu ..." - Source (4th paragraph).
I too believe a great flood took place. IMO, I believe there was once a great global society where all cultures existed together as a whole. Egypt being the central hub for all. A time where there was great knowledge never seen since. Again, this is only my opinions, but I think they knew a great flood was coming, and they had two choices. To either stay or leave. I think most decided to leave.
reply to post by Scott Creighton
The great pyramid is a remnant of a
This is what is truly upsetting those who claim all knowledge of antiquity.
Twenty thousand years age is confirmation of a disposed world before ours.
Thus exposing the truth of a world wide flood. Confirmation of the Biblical is
uppsetting for the elite and their beloved evolution you know ?edit on 1-12-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
I agree with your perspective. If man has been running around doing his/her thing for the past 200,000 years, why would it not be possible for man to build the pyramids 20,000 years ago? Why not even 50,000 years ago or even longer than that? I think it is ridiculous and naive to think 4500 years ago is somehow the magical number where man (all of a sudden), decided it was the perfect time to get it things into gear.
reply to post by randyvs
TO a time that is impossible to explain with todays history. From there it's just common sense.
Not impossible to explain. There is scientific evidence [it is accepted in the global scientific community] that humans, as we are today, have existed for at least 200'000 years. Do you think we were spear throwing nomads for 190'000 or so years, then suddenly created written language and started building cities? Nobody should be surprised if the giza complex is shown to be 20'000 years old. All it'd prove is that we were around making stuff 20'000 years ago. It is not "common sense" to assume older civilizations prove a global flood. I don't get the connection at all. It's just biased thinking. If we made things 10'000 years ago, we could make things 20'000 years ago. Evolution doesn't move that quick. We were essentially as capable 10'000 years ago as we were 20'000. If the date were pushed back 100'000 years, that'd be surprising. But anything over the past 50'000 years isn't really surprising.
Science is a frontier field. There is no 'end game'. Yeah, the story of our race is probably incomplete. Science keeps moving forwards. In 100 years we may have made discovered of even older civilizations that were lost to time. Reclaimed by nature, or lost to catastrophes or roaming glaciers. You're argument isn't even an argument. Humans have been around for ~200'000 years. We're bound to amend our history every once in a while. 20'000 years is not astounding.
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The vandalism itself immediately discredits any legitimacy these STUDENTS might have had to begin with.
I'm sorry but it discredits them? So they obtained 20,000 year pigment from where exactly?
Then the uproar over the vandalism is phooey? Or they damaged the pyramids in a grand hoax? Doesn't seem rational.