NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use

Man, have I told you all lately how much I LOVE the NSA! I love Obama, he is the best! I don't know what you people are whining about? U.S A.! U.S.A. ! U.S.A.!

olaru12


If they want, they can download despicable child porn onto your computer, cell phone, laptop, tablet, etc. and you won't even know it. Stuck off in a folder labeled financial documents. And those tiny pieces of blotter paper slipped under the mat on the passengers side of your Honda.

That my thought. If the dirts not there they can add it.

I personally believe that this could be turned around to be beneficial.

First of all if there are radicals attempting to sway people in certain directions and their actions dont concur with what they preach (like saying dont give in to sexual temptation, meanwhile they are visiting porn sites), then they should be exposed as the frauds they are. (assuming that these radicals are involved in or supporting some sort of criminal activity)

Second think about how things work now. Anyone that they want to influence in certain directions, they can blackmail, if they really wanted. How would they do this now? Well probably by leaking the information to a third party (like a media outlet/reporter) who would claim an anonymous source.

If the NSA started doing this then it would establish a new precedent on the source of information. Anonymous sources wouldnt be as highly taken into account (assuming the intelligent observer) because the NSA apparently has the truth. Therefore because the source is known (NSA is making themselves available) we can set standards on their information and their conduct. In effect chaining them to their own power.


Im not saying that what the NSA is doing is right, or that it should happen. But if it does happen this is the beneficial aspects of it that I can think of. ATS is fully capable of coming up with all the potential detrimental aspects

reply to post by tankthinker


Yeah but leaving at what can and cant be leaked and who deserves to be shamed to the govement? Who to say they can be trusted!

Sorry its to easily abused.

reply to post by crazyewok


True, it's very easily abused and would be a precedent for them to take things even further. That's why you guys got to stop it.

But if you cant, then at least make them pay for it

The NSA has been collecting dirt on everyone and that is why no one dares investigate much anymore. The msm has become more than lame, it has become complete propaganda used by the elite to steer society where it wants.

If someone doesnt play ball first they smear you and then they kill you, depending on the severity of the information leaked.

New World Order doesn't exist? Haha think again.

The worst part is there is a double standard here. Most of the criminal activity such as drug and weapon smuggling, child pornography, large scale prostitution rings are organised and conducted by the elite themselves. They want a monopoly of influence because by restricting the supply they can demand the price they want. If something should be illegal, and some things should, then they should be illegal for everyone.

Not only is a big government wasteful from a financial perspective, but more importantly it speeds up tyranny, working always against the average person.

crazyewok

The US authorities have studied online sexual activity and suggested exposing porn site visits as a way to discredit people who spread radical views, the Huffington Post news site has reported.

lol well...I'm stuffed and if they check my visits then some poor analyst is about about to very very confused!!

They can only blackmail if you FEAR them. Solution - no fear. Who cares what porn ( outside of kids ) you watch - its PORN! Its sex. Sexual curiosity and need is very human and the better you are at self acceptance and openness the less they can use as fodder for blackmailing you. Be 'out' about your porn watching, laugh about it, remove the stigma *you* put on porn and end the silence where it matters if need be, family and friends etc...Its not like the White House has a veil of purity or sanctity about it on the porn and sex scandal issue...so don't let them make you fear and cower. " Yes I watch porn, often creepy weird upside down three bags full porn too!! Who gives f*ck!" ( no pun intended)

This kind of threat and intimation only makes ground if you buy into it and give them the power they are seeking. So don't. It is simple , often not easy, but just 'dont'...be what and who you are and that is unashamedly human. Stuff them.



Ro

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does anyone even care if someone watches porn these days?
id be all like, yeh i watch porn, know any good links?

there is nothing disgusting or dirty about sex, except disgusting dirty sex (:

the idea that they can blackmail us over that is retardulous.

grow up NSA. the world accepts porn now! its been normalised.

okamitengu
does anyone even care if someone watches porn these days?
id be all like, yeh i watch porn, know any good links?

there is nothing disgusting or dirty about sex, except disgusting dirty sex (:

the idea that they can blackmail us over that is retardulous.

grow up NSA. the world accepts porn now! its been normalised.

Hell, 20 years of marriage and the wife and I call porn "foreplay". So? We do dirty things...they only wish they knew about.

I think that this kind of stuff has already been used Petraus is a good example. Justice Roberts is another. There is no shortage of people who just shut up and go away, or change their minds at the last minute.

Whoever did this....it should be a capital crime.

reply to post by crazyewok


Maybe we ought to do the same back , got some pretty nifty IT people here.

Ah, they did that to UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter when he wouldn't shut up about Iraq not having a nuclear program. They planted kiddie pr0n on his computer and put him in prison.

Having seen reports in the past about the number of hits on Porn Sites made from US (and UK too) Government issued hardware, and Government facility IP addresses, I'm sure there are probably many compromised and potential blackmail victims out there.

Of course, this is nothing new and has likely been going on for quite some time.

....and its not like global porn stats are hard to track or aren't already being collated and used for goddess knows what. This enterprise was particularly fun to see:

Porn user habits during world events



Ro

Oh give me a BREAK. This crap, coming from a country run by some of the biggest hypocrites on the damned planet, is laughable. We are supposed to be shocked or appalled by some radical potentially being outed as a tranny or midget porn fan? The followers are supposed to be aghast? Considering the disgusting views & actions we put up with in this country and STILL keep people in office over, I doubt this idea is going to have much promise abroad. And considering the ability to plant whatever they want on any given target's computers, I'd be suspect of anything they claim to find in the first place. Yes, Mr NSA Agent, your assurances really convinced me Mahmoud really looked at 2 Girls 1 Cup.
/sarcasm

reply to post by crazyewok


Classic. And you know they don't really care about porn sites and probably visit them themselves.

In a few decades I can see it now:

"vote for (Insert candidate) and avoid the NSA planting child porn on your computer"

Let them tell everyone what we watch. Watching porn isn't something to be ashamed of. It's a form of entertainment.

Kuroodo
Let them tell everyone what we watch. Watching porn isn't something to be ashamed of. It's a form of entertainment.

Except the NSA can plant extreme and sicking porn on your computer then use it to blackmail you.

reply to post by crazyewok


That's the problem right there.

Thing is it is so effective.

The goverment could put a gun to my head or threaten to throw me in prison and I would stand up defient and refuse to do there bidding (if wrong).

Threaten to frame me for child porn and make me into a monster and I will sing and dance for the goverment. As there is nothing I could do. If they wanted too they could plant what ever evidence they wanted. And that would apply to everyone. Even the most clean person they could smear and blackmail.

It beyond if you havent done any thing wrong you have nothing to fear. As they could plant something wrong at any whim.