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Let's Deny Ignorance: The Not So Doom-y Truth About Comet ISON

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posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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Phage
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Suppose for the sake of argument, ISON is a chunk of coal with a DIAMOND at it's center, at perihelion when the coal breaks away and the center diamond is revealed - what would be the expected outcome if ol' Sol tossed a X class CME at the hypothetical diamond and it's optical interference with the diamond..? (pure speculation on my part)

There is no such thing as an X class CME but what "optical interference" are you talking about?


Xclass flares create CME.

A diamond under intense heat creates an extremely large spectrum amplifying its light signals.
(another members thread shows the composition of ISON to be that of the molecular structure to that of a diamond)
What would the exacting interference cause...plasma discharge or a radial discharge.

Have you seen what ISON apparently did upon its passing of Mars.
(I did say.. .apparently..)




posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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Tucket

Flaunt

I've been keeping up with these ISON doom porn threads for a while now and, at times, I've wanted to hurl my iPad into a wall out of sheer frustration. The ignorance and blind conviction of some people on here is staggering.


Why bother clicking the doom porn threads if it bothers you that much?



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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Tidal forces may cause it to break up but not according to some calculations.

Based on constraints from observations of ISON and other comets, scientists say ISON should be dense enough to survive the tidal effects of the solar flyby.

www.astronomynow.com...



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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A diamond under intense heat creates an extremely large spectrum amplifying its light signals.
Amplifying light signals? Are you talking about light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation? A laser? What does heat have to do with it?


What would the exacting interference cause...plasma discharge or a radial discharge.
What interference?


Have you seen what ISON apparently did upon its passing of Mars.
No. What did it do?



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:26 AM
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I am trying to follow you, my background is in Electrical/Electronics engineering but math is math.
Orbit basics

I looked at the equation to calculate the orbital period, now according to everything I have read, ISON initially had a hyperbolic orbit correct ? which if you look at the explanation, it would never complete a full revolution (one time fly by) but now they are are saying it has an actual orbit and period?

Orbital Period
Notice that the period only makes sense for an elliptical or circular orbit, because parabolas and hyperbolas never make a full revolution. Notice also that this equation proves Kepler's third law. We can see this by rearranging the exponents:

I found out that the anomolies were possibly introduced by the Hubble itself, I took that out.

can you offer a feasible explanation to this ?
Comet Data
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posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Its managed half a million years of orbits, i think it will be fine this time too.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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You are not completely correct, this comet was only discovered a little over a year ago so the know it all agencies had no knowledge of those many orbits you mention, do you have evidence of what you have written beyond what someone told you?

Here is a quote as of yesterday from a physicist at the Naval Research Laboratory, no one really knows anything about this comet beyond the number crunching and focus on it the last year, so how could they know about millions of years of anything?

"We have never seen a comet like this," Naval Research Laboratory astrophysicist Karl Battams said during a NASA news conference Tuesday. "It has been behaving strangely."


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posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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can you offer a feasible explanation to this ?
I did.
It does not mean that the orbit has changed, it means that with more and more observations the calculations have become more refined.

In that article there is a change in the calculated eccentricity from 1.000005 to 0.999997 a difference of 0.000008. That is not much of a difference but it does make the difference between a hyperbolic and a returning orbit.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:35 AM
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Phage
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A diamond under intense heat creates an extremely large spectrum amplifying its light signals.
Amplifying light signals? Are you talking about light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation? A laser? What does heat have to do with it?


What would the exacting interference cause...plasma discharge or a radial discharge.
What interference?


Have you seen what ISON apparently did upon its passing of Mars.
No. What did it do?


ISON apparently gave Mars a coma...there are pics on the web yet NASA has kept quiet about it.

A diamond under intense heat amplifies its heat and area circumference...a laser as you said indeed.
What would those ramifications do to our solar system.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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What would those ramifications do to our solar system.

None. It's nonsense.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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when i think about ison, i just have to remind myself of elenin to instantly disregard the whole thing. People never learn. Deny ignorance you say? Huhu most here are just entertaining themselves with these conspiracies. You would be surprised how much really believe anything. They are just pretending.

Ison is a unique phenomenon though. Too bad the weather is so #ty here i hardly get to see the stars at night...



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:39 AM
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I cannot recall which thread i picked it up- on, but it was a person saying it not citing a source - my apologies if not accurate i do not aim to derail.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:43 AM
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Thanks for that info ! I starred OP and your replies on this great thread.
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posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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Same thing I was thinking, but there will be clear days ahead to see this once in a lifetime event.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:53 AM
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Phage
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What would those ramifications do to our solar system.

None. It's nonsense.


Please explain yourself and the fact this is nonsense.
We are ALL looking for answers and your 3 word answer just doesn't fill explanation!?!
There has been speculation ISON's composite is that of a diamond so upon perihelion
said diamond 'could' act as a radial discharge encompassing our solar system and yes, that would create dire consequences.

I respect your intelligence...but not a dancing 3 word answer.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 11:53 AM
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daryllynSo, there you have it, folks. ISON is just a comet



"We have never seen a comet like this," Naval Research Laboratory astrophysicist Karl Battams said during a NASA news conference Tuesday. "It has been behaving strangely."

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posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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While I don't believe that comet ISON posses a threat to our earth, I understand that if
such a threat was real that TPTB would go to great lengths to hide this from us!
Though there are lots of amateur astronomers around the world present company
included, I think the majority does not have a clue how to plot trajectories of such objects!
Those amateurs that would have such an ability depends entirely on gathering information from
other observers and their results would depend on the veracity of it!
Another thing, even if one of these said astronomers were to find out such an event were imminent
how would any of us be able to confirm such information being there is tons of doom and gloom
promoters on the internet?
In conclusion I don't ever expect to know whether we will be impacted by hail never mind a
comet! As the information we seem to be exposed to has become so very untrustworthy!
The least of our worries should be what is coming from the skies when there is so
much ELE right under our own noses. I speak of the increasing moral decay in our society!
We have failed to do anything about those things we have an ability to change so what's
the point in knowing about dangers we have no ability to change?
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(post by hadituptohere removed for a manners violation)

posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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HumAnnunaki


Now I have a hypothetical question for Mr. Phage -
How can anyone be sure of what ISON will exactly do when we know NOTHING about it's inner core makeup..?
Suppose for the sake of argument, ISON is a chunk of coal with a DIAMOND at it's center, at perihelion when the coal breaks away and the center diamond is revealed - what would be the expected outcome if ol' Sol tossed a X class CME
at the hypothetical diamond and it's optical interference with the diamond..? (pure speculation on my part)

Theoretically true. However it also theoretically possible to run towards a wall and the quantum fluctuations in all the atoms of your body vibrate in such a way that you would pass through the wall.......fancy trying it ? No didn't think so because despite the theoretical possibility you look at actual events. Such an event has never been seen (even for a few atoms) and therefore you would correctly surmise that if you run at the wall you end up in hospital.

OK comets, how a comet behaves is based on all the data previously collected about how all other comets behaves. To date there has not been a diamond core , in fact they are lumps of, basically, dirty ice. So you are 99.999% certain that it is just like all the others.



posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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