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reply to post by Zaphod58
As of today, there has been no military conflict over these disputed islands. So I'd say the US gov might be jumping the gun here...but more importantly...why not try and use diplomacy? Why is it always the US's first reaction to take an agressive posture?
I guess when the only tool you have is a hammer....everything starts to look like a nail.
reply to post by 727Sky
I dont see the worry. China are not stupid they would not fire on a US or Japanese vessel or aircraft. There is no way they could win a Air or Naval conflict. It would end the same way the falklands did for Argentina.
Unless they have a surprise we dont know about.edit on 2-12-2013 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)
reply to post by redoubt
China already occupied some islands that is within the economic zone of the Philippines and thousands of miles away from China. The Philippines can't do anything about it since China has the military might to do it and the Philippines can only watch helplessly what China is doing.
I don't think they cann't fire.
I don't think they cann't fire.
They would know full well that as soon as they open fire they can wave goodbye to there airforce.
In 10 years time that might change but for now it would be insane beyond North Korea Insane.
First you need a President who does not bow to the Saudi King.
Then we shall see.
US forces are vulnerable in that part of the world. The Chinese are quite strong being close proximity and the weapons that they displayed so far are enough to deter the US from having any silly thoughts. In their own backyard or frontdoor, they are capable of force projection despite the naysayers...
Yeah, I laughed too at your reply. Chest thumping is bad excercise.
Until the shooting starts, don't count your chickens.
South Korea will confirm this week an expansion of its air defense identification zone in the East China Sea as a response to China's expansion of its zone, Yonhap News Agency reported.
Seoul will notify neighboring countries of the details this week before making a formal announcement, government officials said.
Taiwan said Monday its military planes have made about 30 flights into a part of China's newly declared air defence zone which overlaps a similar Taiwanese zone.
China's unilateral announcement on November 23 of an Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) in the East China Sea has angered the United States, Japan and South Korea as well as Taiwan
Last month Beijing declared an Air Defence Identification Zone, or ADIZ, over the East China Sea, including the disputed chain, in which it warned all aircraft had to obey Chinese orders or face unspecified "defensive emergency measures".
The US, Japan and South Korea, angry at the declaration, have all sent military or paramilitary aircraft into the zone since.
Analysts point out that Tokyo and Washington appear at odds over instructions to their airline flying over the zone, with Tokyo telling its firms they should not comply and the US advising American companies that they should.
The US Navy has deployed sophisticated surveillance aircraft to Japan, officials said Monday, amid rising tension over China's territorial claims in the region.
Two P-8A Poseidon patrol jets departed Jacksonville, Florida on Friday and arrived later at Kadena air base in Okinawa, in a move that was planned before Beijing declared an air defense zone last month covering disputed islands in the East China Sea, a navy official told AFP.
"This was scheduled for a long time," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity
The US and its allies, Japan and South Korea, have dealt with the latest Chinese gambit in a robust and proper fashion: sending their aircraft squarely through the zone without informing Beijing, and insisting that it should resolve these disputes through negotiation. But China cannot rescind the zone, nor Japan accept it as a fait accompli, without each provoking outrage from nationalist constituencies at home. Already, Washington has irked Tokyo by instructing its civilian airliners to comply with China’s rules. It is understandable that the US has no wish to risk a downed passenger jet, but it should have requested compliance only for those aircraft bound for China. Beijing cannot be allowed to think that it can gain advantage in disputes by reckless, unilateral measures.
No breakthrough in talks between US and China over air identification zone
Chinese President Xi Jinping and US Vice President Joe Biden traded strong arguments on Wednesday over China's contentious new air identifiction zone, with no indication of progress toward defusing the situation
Chest thumping and name calling are symtoms of insecurities.
Don't bother to reply and derail this thread!!!